Renamed & Merged: Qantas Severe Engine Damage Over Indonesia
 

Rumours coming out now.

False rumour. Apparently engine trouble and is turning back from Singaore.

This was what was on news.com.au
 

Scared the crap out of me for a minute. :eek:

Hope you're right Pat.

Looks like another engine incident. It appears at the moment that it may be just debris from the engine that has been found on the island. Plane has landed safely in Singapore. This is still all third hand info at the moment though.

From the nz herald web site.

Airliner crashes in Indonesia - report - World - NZ Herald News

QF not confirming anything.

I hope this is just a media beat up over a non event.

Quote:

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<H1>Reports of passenger plane crash on Indonesian island

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</H1>other news comming out of the region.

This from Reuters...

Doesnt sound good:(:{

SMH article here

Qantas Flight QF32: Emergency Landing Singapore | Engine Failure

The SMH report is a bit contradictory:

thank christ for that. Thanks for posting the update waren.

Sky News retracted earlier reports and confirmed QF32 landed back at Singapore.

No clarification on the "explosion" and "debris near a shopping mall" reports.

sky news now showing pictures of debris on batam.
Perhaps part of engine cowl?

some good sized chunks of debris. Possibly the engine exploding and cowling detached as a result.

classic QF response from unnamed source that there is no suggestion that the debris is from a QF aircraft.

Uncontained no2 engine failure.
Pics up at ANET taken from cabin show pretty substantial wing damage may be very lucky there was no wing fire.
Glad to see all down ok..good work.

That is very true. They are scant on information when people most want it and I am not for one minute defending this tactic. However in this scenario, when the aircraft had not even been on the ground 20 mins (ie maybe not even at the terminal yet depending on fire services inspections etc), would you really expect them to give any more details? Do they even know any more details as yet?

Pic from in the aircraft
 

Taken from a post on airliners.net

Yfrog Photo : yfrog.com/0quh4dj - Shared by ulfw

What Sky News is showing right now, is a large !!!! piece of metal.

The people standing near it gives an indication of the size.

Just watching ABC 24 and Olivia Wirth from QF public affairs could not confirm that the pics of the debris on Batam were from the QF aircraft :ugh:

Looked like SQ debris to me :E

more pics here

Qantas: No Crash / Explosion | Plane Lands In Singapore | QF 32

Sorry already posted above

Also reporting 3 Captains onboard ?

Very quick to pull out the old "experienced flight crew" line. I have no problem with that - HOWEVER when you are trying to tell the traveling public one thing and then actively working to do the opposite (in order to reduce costs), it is more than a tad hypocritical.

As I said - classic QF response. But it's OK, this sort of thing happens all the time. No problem. I don't know why all the fuss!!! :P

That's a rather large chunk or two. :ooh: Makes the B744 damage in SFO look rather less severe.

Does that require a rethink on containment design etc?

From another forum:

"I believe the plane is VH-OQA (Nancy Bird) which recently received heavy maintenance in Germany "

Olivia Wirth's obfuscation was painful. She had seen the pictures of the debris. Qantas logo prominent, but refused to concede that the debris was from QF32.

Don't you love qantas spin.
Only when its convenient.
"Experienced Qantas crew".
Well done to them.
Shame that some of the same "experienced crew" cannot be part of the ongoing growth within the group.
Sorry, but most junior pilots have had a gutful of the treatment from management about career progression. Again, you are only worthwhile, unfortunately, when an incident occurs. Never a two way street when it comes to mutual respect wrt to management and mainline pilots.

Interesting el rootoo. I didn't think the check in Germany involved engines. Will be an interesting investigation to watch.

Glad everyone is OK however....................

Olivia Wirth lacked cred and was appalling, unprofessional and an utter embarassment.

[Did love the pic of the Indonesian local standing with his wife holding a piece with part of a logo.....]

Yes, but it appears the crew operated in an appropriate manner. As you would expect,... as the passengers expect and pay for. The thing that is galling, is the way in which qantas pr promotes its relationship with its pilots and other staff in times like these.
Only last week, the union representing qantas mainline pilots, was yet again told to f$ck *&^ in no uncertain terms, whilst attempting to gain future work for qantas pilots.
In complete contrast to the usual "experienced qantas pilots" line that comes out today.
One has to wonder why qantas treats such an asset, like pilots and other staff, as they do.
Its summed up by the word RESPECT or lack there of. And it covers all front line staff in qantas. Those very staff that will be at the forefront today dealing face to face with the public and not on the end of a phone trying to spin some rubbish to sky news.

Wait for it, regardless of cause - 'Safety was not an issue'.

Lester,

Not when the good name and reputation of Qf pilots is cynically used to rescue their corporate reputation. . . . AGAIN!

I liked that photo too. Grinning Indo' policeman with broken roo on engine cowl. Grrrrreat publicity shot.

I wish journalists who don't really know what on earth they are talking about would comment on such matters. The ABC correspondent in Indonesia said on the radio this afternoon that the aircraft landed with part of the tail missing. He must have seen footage of the engine cowl with the roo on it and thought it was the tail section.:ugh: At least get your facts straight before going on air.

Could we limit the thread to comments about the actual incident?

Experienced is a great word...it implies a great deal but really all it means is that they have done this a few times before. End of story.

Now let's leave it alone and deal with the actual failure.:ok:

Check out the photos on herald sun

www.heraldsun.com.au/news/plane-reportedly-qantas-sheds-parts-before-landing-at-singapore/story-e6frf7jo-1225947832315"]http://http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/plane-reportedly-qantas-sheds-parts-before

Notice the big hole in the turbine section and debris sticking up on the wing.

I think it funny that it is ok to employ inexperienced crew when it helps the bottom line, but when the all important "perfect" safety record is at stake, experience is something to crow about.

Can any engineers confirm that the damage to the wing appears to be in the "dry bay" area?

looks like she has shat her cowling big time, and possibly part of the cargo door, or so it looks.

One of the pictures from The Herald Sun has what appears to be a turbine hub, well 50% of a hub sitting in the back of someones truck (pic 9of11) :uhoh:
reminds me of the uncontained turbine failure to American Airlines B767 a few years back although totally different engines, damage all the same.....


Fan cowls look fine.... damage to Thrust Reverer Half only, thats the pieces that have the Kangaroo Logo on them

I'm extremely relieved after reading the initial reports comming out of Indonesia.

ps:
Alan Joyce live on Skynews now.