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FMU 4th Nov 2010 09:37

Uncontained #2 engine failure, resulting in loss of both green and yellow hydraulics. Debris punctured leading edge and damaged wiring to #1 engine. Also debris punctured under wing surface resulting in fuel leak. On landing, blew 4 tyres. Stopped on runway. Unable to shutdown #1 engine due to damaged wiring. Attempted to drown #1 engine with water from fire truck, but did not work. 3 hrs after landing #1 engine still running.

astroboy55 4th Nov 2010 09:38

Kremin,

perhaps this will serve as a timely reminder of the value of QF staff to the daily operations and safety of the airline. perhaps aipa will use this to their advantage.

well done to all involved

Zoomy 4th Nov 2010 09:41

Brilliant Crew, fantastic job. All you need to do now is rid QANTAS of tosser CEO's and you will return to your former glory.

Just heard him on the radio, personally I feel like dacking the little sh%t.

Fliegenmong 4th Nov 2010 09:41

Not sure why, but it reminded me of the Ansett 727-200 incident at BNE, July 1992?, no 2 failure, that failure was of the first stage low-pressure compressor??

Here it is...

ASN Aircraft accident Boeing 727-277 VH-ANA Brisbane International Airport, QLD (BNE)

Capt Kremin 4th Nov 2010 09:42

Thanks FMU. Was the double hyd failure due to loss of fluid? Great job guys!:D:D:D

quadradar 4th Nov 2010 09:43

Brilliant Job
 
Well Done to another great QANTAS crew .... have the greatest of respect for QANTAS Flight Crews - whether at the sharp end or self loading freight end.
:D:D:D

Bootstrap1 4th Nov 2010 09:47

Engine 1 was pumped full of water to shut it down. Possible wiring damage at #2 strut area might have stopped engine shut down.

Only 1 hydraulic system was down. The trailing edge flaps only work hydraulically. The slats work hydraulic or electric. My guess is that the yellow system was still working but the slats were damaged and so didnt move or the slat controller resets were pulled to stop them moving.

Gear free fall worked fine as well by the look of things.
Possible aileron faults as well. It would seem that most of the safety systems airbus designed for this aircraft got a workout today. I didn't see the RAT deployed, maybe they need to save something for another day.

Lean Sigma 4th Nov 2010 10:09

A380 Blade Off test
 

Ngineer 4th Nov 2010 10:48

I doubt Qantas would be capable of being able to determine the cause of this failure. That would be up to the experts at RR. My guess, if indeed it was a turbine disc failure, is a manufacture fault of the disc that went undetected.

Galley Raider 4th Nov 2010 11:00

Turbine Overspeed MEL
 
My mail says Eng#2 on that A/C has been carrying a Cat A Turbine Overspeed MEL since Tuesday.

Going Boeing 4th Nov 2010 11:04

Ngineer, the B744 Engine failure out of SFO appears to have been caused by a centre bearing failure which caused a shaft to shear. With the compressor section detached, the turbine section on that shaft oversped and subsequently suffered a failure of the turbine disk so the problem can be caused by a failure elsewhere in the engine.

air bender 4th Nov 2010 11:41

Swiss Cheese
 
The holes are beginning to line up at QF
Hope someone is monitoring

FlexibleResponse 4th Nov 2010 12:25


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Turbine Overspeed MEL
My mail says Eng#2 on that A/C has been carrying a Cat A Turbine Overspeed MEL since Tuesday.
Now this little snippet might make the Joyce/Purvinas boxing match, or perhaps pistols at dawn, (called for by Joyce with rather loose lips on the ABC's Kerry O'Brien's 7:30 Report) very interesting indeed!

Safety is QF management's number one priority...Bull****!

It's all about the management bonus you fools!

bubble.head 4th Nov 2010 12:42

I am quite surprise AJ grounded the A380 fleet. I guess the 744 drivers will be working quite hard in the following week or two.:zzz:

aviator's_anonymous 4th Nov 2010 12:50

Wouldn't this aircraft/engine be too new to be a engineering/maintenance problem? I would suspect it would be a manufacturing problem..something to do with RR... poor Qantas will get all the blame tho!

Capt Fathom 4th Nov 2010 12:54

Come on guys and girls!

The crap that is being posted here is embarrassing!

You lot should be banished to the local CWA to continue your
gossip at a tea and bikkie session!

:yuk:

SOPS 4th Nov 2010 12:58

BBC just reprted that SIA are grounding thier A380s as well for inspections.

Capn Bloggs 4th Nov 2010 13:10

I thought most of the posts were quite reasonable, Fathom.

TIMA9X 4th Nov 2010 13:20

Qantas A380 emergency landing | Singapore


ALAEA federal secretary Steve Purvinas said safety was a growing concern for Qantas engineers with continued outsourcing of maintenance work.
"We know that the dramatic increase in the number of safety incidents involving Qantas jets coincides with an increase in the amount of work that is no longer carried out in-house," he said in a statement.
In the past 10 years, Qantas has shut down every in-house engine shop in Australia, he said, leading to a reduction in safety standards.
"We have seen some pretty horrid results of maintenance from the overseas facilities - things that aren't reported in the press," he told AAP.
AJ (and the bonus boys in QF management) time to listen. My congratulations to the Captains and crew on today's QF 32 for a job well handled, as usual. It is my view the blokes in management need to get back to basics and sort themselves out regarding day to day airline operations, ie reinvesting in local in house engine shops to regain some credibility lost with poor management decisions over the recent years. :mad:

Homesick-Angel 4th Nov 2010 14:25

Im still astounded by the strength of the explosion in the Rolls Royce engine test posted by Lean Sigma..

The woman in the vid described the forces going on in the blades as hanging a locomotive in the engine.. Jee zuz! :eek:

I dont care how tough any of you think you are, if you felt that kind of explosive energy (watch the vid) on any airplane anywhere anytime you would be an idiot not to be deeply concerned and or sh*t your pants.
Now pretend you are Pax that doesn't know that aircraft generally dont fall out of the sky even with engine loss, and you just heard that explosion..

That would not have been a fun flight to be on, and it seems the crew did an amazing job (as they should at their pay grade:E ).


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