Kelpie,

Some fairly dodgy figures you're quoting there. Qantas share price yesterday was $2.09 v $2.91 on October 25th which was the peak closing price in the last 6 months. Therefore a 28% decline.

If you compare against other international airlines, Qantas is 30% below it's 12 month peak. Cathay is 24% below, SIA is 19% below, Delta is 33% below. The common theme is oil.

The Kings New Clothes
 

Thanks Shareholder for keeping me honest!!

A severe case of 'on train iPhone keyboard dyslexia' I'm afraid.

Changes made!!!

Kelpie

Was not the arguement made that once oil hits a certain price LCC model don't really work?

Share price and Airline struggle
 

Unrealistic pricing for airfares countrywide.

For the millionth time this isn't: Europe/Asia/US.

On the subject of avoidance of TAX, superanuation, and workplace obligations, were are the stood down J* cadets at?

It seems they're not the only ones to have worked illegally in OZ. Two Direct Entry F/O pilots that I know of (so there must be many more), employed under the NZ/Singapore A320/330 scam are currently finishing their A320 line training in Australia, whilst being paid under the NZ contract!

Do those conducting the training have the first clue that they may be operating illegally? Do they even care? Have Jetstar pilots effectively had their 'Nads removed after the Joe Eakins affair?

Why are they still flying? :suspect:

Wow, glad I gave the military a wide burth.... At least the instructors we have try to get us through to the end...

Krusty

If you are in the union please can you make them aware of this as there is specific correspondence (albeit carefully worded) on foot that denies that this is happening.

Cheers

The kelpie

And this is how the ex military guys continue to operate on civy street.

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Use this toll free number to advise the department, about a person working or living illegally in Australia or an employer not meeting their sponsorship obligations under the Temporary Business 457 visa program.

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We need to do all we can to fight this circumvention of the Australian EBA.

PG

Some new submissions have been posted regarding the enquiry inlcuding one from our fine Assocation.

Parliament of Australia: Senate: Committees: Rural Affairs and Transport Committee: Pilot training and airline safety including consideration of the Transport Safety Investigation Amendment (Incident Reports) Bill 2010: Submissions Received

Next hearing 31st March!!

Schedule TBC

Can someone please advise of current ramifications of Jetstar actions.

Are low hour cadets now legally flying in Australia without CASA approval on Australian contracts?

If I am mistaken I apologise in advance, just trying to understand.

CASA is only involved with pilot licencing. Employment T&C/EBA/contracts are under the jurisdiction of Fair Work Australia. They are two separate issues.
The Senate committee can investigate anything it chooses. The net is being cast wider by the day...

Military or Paramilitary tactics have no place in an Airline environment. What is needed is more practice so pilots can go beyond the standard ticking the CASA box.

People want to be good at their job yet never get to really experiment or practice. Its always all or nothing.

Yes they are flying as co-pilots on A320s, B737 Wegetail, C-17, C-130, P3, EVEN THE PRIME MINISTER'S PLANE!!!!!

Would you all get off your high horses about the cadet program!!!

If you seriously think a cadet from the Jetstar cadet program is anything like an Airforce Flying Officer with 200 hours then you are a fool! Chalk and cheese. One takes the best and brightest and the other takes a pulse and a wallet IMHO.

Explain how they can be chalk and cheese?

Both pilots go through a selection process and are trained on structured courses which are designed to produce a specific product to do a specific job.

You guys just don't like the cadet program because it wasn't an option for you when you started, so you lost years in GA, whereas I get to where I want to be now.

If you want to bash low hour pilots flying heavy jets you MUST include the airforce...

If you want to bash the quality of the training Jetstar is giving us then give proof of how poor the training is..(something no one has done)

So which one is it PPRUNE???? Is it the time in our logbooks or the training you are upset about???

Well there you go Orange Star. Your handle, age, and number of posts sort of say's it all.

RAAF pilots are not self funded, they are screened and picked from a very select criteria, and far from being exploited, they are on the whole consumate professionals who's training bears absulutely no comparison to what I'm guessing is the path you have taken. Sorry to bust your bubble but that's just the way it is.

I'm assuming they taught reading comprehension at the High school you recently graduated from. Have a read (closely) of the Cadet threads, especially those associated with the Jetstar scam, and you will see that the common theme is one of outrage against the exploitation of individuals who apparently do not know any better. If you feel this is a personal attack against Cadets, then you really haven't grasped the situation

If it weren't for the profound effect that these type of scams are having on the profession as a whole, then most professional pilots would probably not bother trying to educate the young and ilinformed as to the dangers ahead.

When it all turns to Cr@p, at least you can't say you weren't warned!

P.S. Thanks What the, I was typing while you were posting.