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AIPA V QF Jetconnect
AIPA's case in Fair Work Australia cleared a major hurdle this afternoon with the Full Bench rejecting QF's claim to have the case dismissed on the basis on jurisdiction.
Fair Work Australia ruled AIPA did have a right to bring the case. This is very interesting as it was always considered to be the major method that QF would have the application dismissed. Somehow QF is now going to have to convince the FWA that QF painted pilots in QF painted aeroplanes don't deserve to be paid in genuine amigo money just because they are employed in NZ. The ramifications for Jetstar are also obvious. Well done to AIPA's legal team. :ok: |
Mister, you want buy copy watch! I mean copy airline. :8
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QF painted aeroplanes It'd be interesting to see if any sort of argument is advanced with respect to the registration holder of the aircraft not being 'Qantas'; a quick check of the register shows that the registrations of at least 17 of the 30 747s on the Australian register are not held by the same entity as operates them. |
A very interesting case - the wider ramifications for all Australian business is huge. What about the Telstra call centre in India, VB in the Philippines etc??? If it was to be awarded to AIPA I expect an amendment to the legislation immediately - no matter who wins the election.
Nonetheless, with Jetstar announcing MEL/AKL and AKL/CNS I can't see Jetconnect (and the QF brand) being round for much longer on the Tasman, and unfortunately experiments such as these will only accelerate such decisions. |
A very interesting case - the wider ramifications for all Australian business is huge. What about the Telstra call centre in India, VB in the Philippines etc??? However, this case will be of interest to those business seeking to fly in labour to do work within Australia, particularly NZ residents. Should AIPA lose the case, it gives the green light to fly in fly out labour hire operations, hence the interest from the ACTU. I beleive the political pressure will then be to legislate against this practice. |
See todays australian article for Alan Joyces thoughts............
Virgin Blue Group pilots step up battle as jobs go overseas | The Australian Wondering if all of the qf board and their function could be ot sourced to say Bangladesh, in the hope to save a buck. You know, in the true spirit of australia. Why do we need them here? |
Spirit of Hypocrisy
DAVID EPSTEIN: It's really quite simple. We have New Zealand staff operating New Zealand-originated aircraft, operated by a New Zealand company on aircraft that are registered in New Zealand. It couldn't be much more simple than that. And painted on the side is Spirit of Australia. How about we reflect what this is truly about. Spirit of Executive Bonuses Spirit of Corporate Greed Spirit of Disengagement Strategies Spirit of Industrial Ideologies |
Didn't those titles read in the past "The Australian Airline"? One wonders why that was changed :}
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AIPA had also taken more than 12 cases against Qantas through either federal courts or workplace bodies and had yet to win. "So they have history of taking spurious cases against us and spending hundreds of thousands of dollars of their members' money on them," Mr Joyce said. "That's also one of the reasons why we're feeling confident." The same argument can be turned around to Qantas... how many of those cases did they "win"? Answer: none. What is really interesting is that AIPA now seems to have the undivided attention of management with this one... for good reason. |
And painted on the side is Spirit of Australia I have often wondered how Kiwis must feel on a domestic run, when they board something with "Spirit of your mortal enemy" daubed on the side... Might it be better to just leave it blank? Wondering if all of the qf board and their function could be ot sourced to say Bangladesh, in the hope to save a buck. You know, in the true spirit of australia. Why do we need them here? |
AIPA had also taken more than 12 cases against Qantas through either federal courts or workplace bodies and had yet to win. "So they have history of taking spurious cases against us and spending hundreds of thousands of dollars of their members' money on them," Mr Joyce said. "That's also one of the reasons why we're feeling confident." |
"So they have history of taking spurious cases against us and spending hundreds of thousands of dollars of their members' money on them," Mr Joyce said.
"That's also one of the reasons why we're feeling confident." Change tack yes, How about 'So Qantas management have a history of spending tens of millions of dollars of their shareholders money on paying freight price fixing fines' Maybe the public needs to be informed. |
Puku
I spoke with my cousin who works for a Great Motor car
maker re the AIPA action and I mentioned how all my Q friends own beamers, me-cs and ow- dies. In her words many on the Qteam sent jobs off shore to make their cars but rant and rave when their employer do same. The support and sympathy the workers at her plant give AIPA etc; - ZERO Discuss |
I spoke with my cousin who works for a Great Motor car maker re the AIPA action and I mentioned how all my Q friends own beamers, me-cs and ow- dies. In her words many on the Qteam sent jobs off shore to make their cars but rant and rave when their employer do same. |
That's a stupid comparison If your friends employer started building Falcons/Commodores overseas for the Australian market, then she would know what we are talking about. |
Joyce is sounding a little like his despised predecessor. If the QF pilots read AIPA see this latest action as a watershed that is long over due then about time. The rot started in the nineties with Airlink servicing Rocky and Mackay. AIPA never listened then. Along came Impulse which morphed into Jetstar. We were told they will never operate on the primary trunk routes, all lies. The management can not be trusted. Then Jetconnict in our -838 737s wearing our uniforms. False and misleading representation which is against the trade practices act and yet ASIC didn't want to know when I raised it with them 5 years ago. Too hard to legislate across the pond I was told. Politically difficult to prosecute. They have disdain for the history and pride of Qantas. I have another 15 years here and like most will do 35-40 years with QF. If they want my engagement they had better learn quickly to stop eroding the very essence of Qantas and the culture that I was once so proud of. Trying to save fuel and improve punctuality are 2 areas I have absolute control over. watch your Kpi' s KABOY. It will be very interesting to see how far this matter gets and how political it becomes.
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I am an Army of One (or 2, or 300, ...) I am an army of One - A Captain in the Continental Airlines army. For years I was a loyal soldier in Gordon's army. Now I fight my own war. I used to feel valued and respected. Now I know I am mere fodder. They (CAL) used to exhibit labor leadership. Now they exploit legal loopholes. They used to enjoy my maximum. Now they will suffer my minimum. I am an army of One. I used to save CAL a thousand pounds of fuel per leg; finding the best FL, getting direct routing, throttling back when on-time was made, skimping during ground ops, adjusting for winds, being smart and giving the company every effort I could conjure. Now, it's "burn baby, burn". I used to call maintenance while airborne, so the part would be ready at the gate. Now, they'll find the write-up when they look in the book. I used to try to fix problems in the system, now I sit and watch as the miscues pile up. I used to fly sick. Now I use my sick days, on short notice, on the worst day of the month. I am an army of One. I used to start the APU at the last possible moment. Now my customers enjoy extreme comfort. I used to let the price of fuel at out-stations affect my fuel orders. I still do. I used to cover mistakes by operations. Now I watch them unfold. I used to hustle to ensure an on-time arrival, to make us the best. Now I do it for the rampers and agents who need the bonus money….but this too may change. I used to call dispatch for rerouting, to head off ground delays for bad weather. Now I collect overs, number 35 in line for takeoff. I am on a new mission - to demonstrate that misguided leadership of indifference and disrespect has a cost. It's about character, not contracts. It's about leading by taking care of your people instead of leadership by bean counters (an oxymoron). With acts of omission, not commission, I am a one-man wrecking crew - an army of One. My mission used to be to make CAL rich. Now it's to make CAL pay. When they furlough more pilots than the rest, pilots that cost them 60 cents on the dollar - I will make them pay. When they under-staff bases and over-work reserves to keep pilots downgraded, down-flowed, or downtrodden - I will make them pay. When over-booked customers are denied boarding system wide, while jets are parked in the desert - I will make them pay. When they force pilots, who have waited 12 years to become captains, to be FOs again - I will make them pay. When they ask CAL pilots to show leadership at Express, and then deny them longevity - I will make them pay. When they recall F/As for the summer, just to furlough them again in the fall like migrant workers - I will make them pay. When they constantly violate the letter and spirit of our contract - a contract that's a bargain by any measure, and force us to fight lengthy grievances - I will make them pay. My negotiating committee speaks for me, but I act on my own. I am a walking nightmare to the bean counters that made me. Are you listening? This mercenary has a lot of years left with this company; how long can you afford to keep me bitter? I'm not looking for clauses in a contract, I'm looking for a culture of commitment and caring. When I see it, I'll be a soldier for CAL again. Until then, I am an Army of One…And I'm not alone! Continue the divide an conquer strategy at your shareholder's peril Alan. |
I, like many others joined Jetconnect cause we need to feed our kids. Our boss's say do this, we do as we are told and next thing we're being slagged off by the Mainline guys. Now our lively hood is under threat by AIPA action, all with the support of our own representative NZALPA. Hope NZALPA. and AIPA make sure I get reemployed by Mainline. Or at least I get my 20 plus years of contributions back when I need it.
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I just hope all those guys out there in mainline are aware that Jetconnect was once a NZ domestic airline which was once mostly crewed by Aussies who eventually shifted back home. That airline endured years of uncertainty and hats off to the guys that stuck in there and made it the success it is now. The Jetconnect guys were quite happy doing domestic NZ until Jetstar full of Aussie crew took over NZ domestic and Qantas management moved Jetconnect onto the Tasman. I do hope the mainline guys do have some spine and stick up for the guys from NZ in Jetconnect who are just as passionate about the qantas product as they are. It would be good to see them on better terms and conditions. Maybe it is better to bring these guys into the mainline seniority and fight the management in numbers.
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Maybe it is better to bring these guys into the mainline seniority and fight the management in numbers. |
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