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Taildragger67 5th Jul 2010 02:58

1A,

Interesting little note at the bottom of that site, given the "Virgin Australia" trademark appears to be owned by an entity sharing a UK address with a plethora of other "Virgin" entities:


Public Notice: VIRGIN AUSTRALIA PTY. LTD. ACN; 051117401 is an Australian owned company, founded in March 1991 in accordance with all Australian Government and Corporate Laws. Virgin Australia wishes to make it clear, that it does not want to be confused or associated with Sir Richard Branson’s - Virgin group of companies.

Skystar320 6th Jul 2010 00:42

Former CEO Mr G has today resigned from DJ effective immediately.

Long John Silver 6th Jul 2010 01:45

So whats the latest with route consolidation? Is there going to be a retraction in flying for a little while, or just re-direction?

Still lots of recruitment going on so I'm guessing more of a re-direction?...

VBPCGUY 6th Jul 2010 05:08

The man is a gun and his roadshow was fantastic he has alot of passion and a good sense of where he wants VB to go, the future is very bright, Im a tad excited:ok:

teggun 6th Jul 2010 05:13

So whats his direction and where does he want to go?

The Green Goblin 6th Jul 2010 06:54

IMO it's the greatest error of QFs recent history letting JB go. If he had of stayed I reckon QF would have become a real player in the premium market and those 777s would have finally arrived.

Now watch the VB group fulfill that void.

The future will be bright with VB indeed :ok:

standard unit 6th Jul 2010 07:09


IMO it's the greatest error of QFs recent history letting JB go. If he had of stayed I reckon QF would have become a real player in the premium market and those 777s would have finally arrived.
Yes, which is why he was at odds with the QF board, Dixon and Gregg etc as he had a vision for QF's future beyond atrophy.

He literally had to go.

The future according to these fools was/is, orange. :yuk:

VBPCGUY 6th Jul 2010 09:49

Just basics, it will be a two class cabin going forward a 'proper' full service Business class seperated from economy, new uniforms across all employee groups, and massive attempt to bring a good consistant product no matter where you fly with the VB group of airlines, which in my opinion is VB's biggest down fall, right from the type of boarding pass you get in MEL compared to say ADL.

Terminal/lounge refurbs in BNE/MEL and SYD, BNE starts in around four weeks time, carpet will be gone bar the boarding gates, the rest will be titled, major Lounge refurbs in BNE/MEL and a tweaking of the SYD lounge as it has only just recently be reopened.

Widebodies currently being looked at and are before the board but pretty much confirmed its going to happen and has to happen for the main reason being slots into SYD, Turboprops were mentioned but not as high on the agenda as widebodies at this stage.

Pretty much the leisure market is still very important and that wont change, he really is hungry to grow the business market and to double the membership of the Velocity FF program which is currently at around 2M members where as QF have around 8M members.

That pretty much sums it up.

KRUSTY 34 6th Jul 2010 10:30

As far as "Wide-bodies" go, I'm assuming 767 or A330, or even perhaps 787 (down the track). Another Type, More dissimilar rated pilots/training/cycles, and simulators. Another set of spares inventories, more type ratings for engineers, more engineers?

I'm not saying it isn't possible, or even not necessary for that matter in order to compete with QF, but the money will have to come from somewhere. Where will the axe fall? :sad:

PPRuNeUser0198 6th Jul 2010 10:45


Originally Posted by The Green Goblin
QF would have become a real player in the premium market and those 777s would have finally arrived.

Yet, premium traffic on Qantas is back to pre GFC levels and improving...I think that makes Qantas a 'player' in the market mate.

The 777 does not suit Qantas's operations, otherwise they'd have them...

F111 6th Jul 2010 12:45

Kristy,

I would say over half of DJs engineers are 767 rated.

piston broke again 6th Jul 2010 13:11

T-V, that must be wind up...That's the funninest thing I've heard in ages. 777's not suiting QF? My sides are so sore...

The Green Goblin 6th Jul 2010 13:14


The 777 does not suit Qantas's operations, otherwise they'd have them...
It would suit it better than the gear they have now, especially if they need to reduce capacity on a route or open up new ones etc.

But growth in mainline is not the rats agenda.

If they bought the 777 they would admit they were wrong and would be held accountable for not purchasing it to begin with.

http://www.qantasvirtual.info/commun...4528926189.jpg

SIGH

SilverSleuth 6th Jul 2010 14:17

I think just about everyone in the aviation community (except the the Q board members from the last 10 years) realise the 777 would have suited the Q network more than any other airframe. But hey, I am sure they know best :D

73to91 6th Jul 2010 21:54

SilverSleuth in turn, makes a good point and so, what is the role of the board? A quick search shows many items and the common theme regarding the role and they are: "The primary responsibility of the board of directors is to protect the shareholders' assets and ensure they receive a decent return on their investment." and "It is the board's job to select, evaluate, and approve appropriate compensation for the company's chief executive officer (CEO), evaluate the attractiveness of and pay dividends, recommend stock splits, oversee share repurchase programs, approve the company's financial statements, and recommend or strongly discourage acquisitions and mergers. "

You'd have to ask and this could lead to perhaps another topic, has the QF board protected the shareholders (gee a couple of years back they were protecting themselves and the former CEO!!)

Perhaps the ego of the former CEO was such, that he could simply not accept the vision spelt out by John B because of, well, the ego?

Jimmy BowTie is the one board member who has been on the board for perhaps too long now.

ANCDU 7th Jul 2010 03:07

Is Qantas's loss that JB has gone, but i think it will finally provide some competition and indeed some money finally spent on Qantas and not J*, this is already being seen on the new interiors and IFE on the new domestic A330's and 738's. I think in the end it will actually be a positive for Qantas and especially its customers. Competition is a good thing!:ok:

Hopefully this finally puts VB on some kind of direction, and hopefully you guys don't have one of JB's not so great ideas.....That stupid "Center of Excellence"! And please....no more caps!!!!

Cactusjack 7th Jul 2010 04:34

Now where is my rubbish bin ?
 
Skystar320,


Former CEO Mr G has today resigned from DJ effective immediately


Great news indeed. But he will be still lurking in the shadows picking up a consultancy fee for the odd phone hook-up and two cents worth of input which will be ignored anyway . But thats the system of executive management isnt it ?

Green Goblin,


IMO it's the greatest error of QFs recent history letting JB go.


True to a certain point. But the reason JB didnt land the top job at QF was due to a lack of strength in the area of operations .
If you were to use a basic illustration of ‘dividing an airline in half’ he is a master of corporate strategy and direction, he will really fix up VB in this area, but on an operational front he is a little weaker. He has ‘received advice’to fix operations urgently but is dithering a little and placing greater emphasis on corporate structure and direction first. The longer that operational issues are not addressed means the longer that some ‘key people’ are let loose to wreck more havoc and damage on to the business. JB needs to restructure quickly and kick out all the grubs, incompetents and leaches that are still bleeding precious blood from VB.Every day under the management of these fools means another day of profit loss.
Tick Tock John, the clock is ticking..........

Last week was a joke in The Village. The 'Dedication Of 10 Years Service' for some incompetents could have been an opportunity to show them the door instead and rename the flair filled party as "Dedication To Closing The Door On 10 Years Of Incompetence And Mismanagement" !

PPRuNeUser0198 7th Jul 2010 12:33


T-V, that must be wind up...That's the funninest thing I've heard in ages. 777's not suiting QF? My sides are so sore...
Thanks - I thought you'd like it...

Gingerbread 8th Jul 2010 07:23

And our Sue is next . . .
 
And now . . . making her way to the Village . . . people . . . is our Sue. She does know a thing or two about how to deal with unions and can do a deal. Let's see how it all fits.

standard unit 8th Jul 2010 12:24

Sue Bussell- Ex QF HR GM??


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