Qantas to sell 2 747-400s this year
 

OJF and OJK both to be sold this year. Announcment on Tuesday re more flying cuts. Lost money in the last quarter.Not good news.

Well they are both almost 20 years old and on average QF do more flying per year than most on their 747's so they are most likely beyond their use by date from a financial point of view.

I can see the add now.....VH-OJK for Sale, 19 years of tender loving care by QF Engineering, a lot of k's on the clock but runs well. Pride of the fleet and preferred on Sundays as it has been a bit Holy :eek:!

J:E

Whats the bet they are leased back down the track when things pick up- oh of course the 787 will be here.:ugh:

With the economic downturn are there any buyers out there?
As Jabawocky pointed out they are almost 20 years old.
Might look better parked at the museum at Longreach.:ok:

Unfortunately...it's a buyers market at the moment for a lot of things not just aircraft...

Unless you could find someone willing to convert them into freighters I think it will be hard to shift them for any decent money....

Remember the old days when QF aircraft sold at a premium because of their maintenance record :oh:

ie more routes given to JQ - the savior of Qantas and the best run, efficient and highest yielding airline model ever. I thought I'd get in before genex and jjw:)

They still have not sold the B747-300's....

It would be a hard sell to sell them when you have younger, more modern, young, better interior aircraft on the market.

The market is already got a glut of both 747-400 pax & freighter aircraft.

Good luck Qantas!

AirNZ just had one of their 400's for sale for 10M, probably a litttle younger than those of QF. Couldn't get a buyer so they have scrapped it for parts.

Very much doubtful for US$10million!!!!! Thats bloody cheap, yet

Maybe we could gift one to Borghetti instead of his golden handshake.

It would look brilliant on his driveway.

OJK
 

One owner - outsource maintenance, has minor repair damage from oxygen bottle blowout after of cargo door cutout R/H, identified by the massive wiring splices in the area - new forward pressure bulkhead very low cycles, due minor impact with another aircraft ...yeah I can see everyone lining up to buy it...

If I won powerball jackpot or something like that I would buy it and fly it around VFR, coastal at 500ft etc, until my money ran out. Which wouldnt take long to do at around 8 tonnes an hour burn at low weight! :)

AoA, be sure to sell tickets cheap, not really to make money just to keep it flying coastal 500ft VFR for a bit longer!! I'll be first in line for one of those tickets :D Hell, i'll even give you a hand flying if you want!!

No real experience on something bigger than a duchy, but i'll give it a darned good go! :}

If they are roller powered 747 then that is a good price. Scrap rates for a 744 is about 8 mil.

Only for operators of RR B744 QF, CX, BA and NZ ? Any one know anyone else with RR B744

So is the rumour true that QANTAS are having to pay cash for fuel. :E

I'll bite on a couple of things

I think it's traditionally the weakest quarter anyway, certainly on longhaul, so unhelpful but not awful, if true.


I had the good fortune, in the early days of Antarctic charters, to score a staff trip. Low level over water (and ice floes ) past Mawson's Hut. A sublime and serene experience.

Surely on the books these A/C must of been written many years ago and hence anything they get for them is profit.

I believe Air New Zealand 747-400 ZK-NBS is on the market for US$10 million. I think it was coming up for engine replacement and a major check so that figure is probably not out of the ballpark for the Qantas ones.

AAhhhh bugger! Another two steps closer to the 380....:{

c100driver
SAA and Cargolux are RR 744 powered operators too.

Why OJF and OJK ?
They have both been recently upgraded to Prem Y.

I would have thought the older OJA - OJE, still yet to be upgraded and with the old fabrics would be first to go?

Now listen carefully, for I will say this only once...

The $10,000,000 per unit is spot-on. They're being bought by Jetstar! True.

We get $1,000,000 per calendar month PROFIT from mainline (ie over-and-above the difference between whatever the clunkers cost to run and what few shekels we get from the punters) - guaranteed - to operate them on current mainline routes (well...I should be more accurate and say route - singular - because we're starting with Argentina). That way we show a profit, we get more aircraft, we show even more profit, then we get them all!

Right!

Now that I've jumped in ahead of the other cynics who might really believe this nonsense, I hope none of them bother posting.

Hopefully it gave one or two readers a laugh - it was meant to be read in a light-hearted way.

But Buenos Aires would be a nice place to fly and I'm envious. Enjoy it boys and girls...:ok:

I heard that 2 of the oldest 767s are due to be sold. We shall find out on Tuesday, along with who has lost their job.

Don't think anyone (pilots) will be losing their job just yet. Assigned leave has just started with lower divisors, assigning long service leave occurred in the past, not ideal but better than losing your job. I am sure that there would be quite FEW new Qantas pilots who would love a few years leave without pay to go back to the RAAF and fly real aircraft for a while again. And maybe a few of those over 60's sitting on a few million super (although slightly less now) might decide to give the younger members a bit of a break and retire gracefully.

"And maybe a few of those over 60's sitting on a few million super (although slightly less now) might decide to give the younger members a bit of a break and retire gracefully".

Yeah right, like that's going to happen. These guys will go for ever and ever as they probably don't have much of a life outside flying. As if they will all of a sudden get a touch of the guilts and decide to give the young ones a go.

I have no knowledge, but happy to speculate that two other considerations come into play

A) How many hours to Major maintenance visit - lotsa dollars to be saved there.

B) Nature of ownership, QF own some airframes and have a variety of differing lease types on others. Again major bikkies related to the timing of disposal.

Given my track record, I've likely missed the true reason.:{

OJF & OJG are the oldest airframe by flt hrs and it makes sense to dispose of these,
OJK & OJH have a few bumps and bruises so its disposal is a given.
The next decision is which ones are due soon for D checks?

The only QF 744 for sale on the Boeing website is OJR - trace the S/N.

Wasn't OJK the one involved in the depressurization incident between Hong Kong and Manila last year?

Freighters hey..........people like their freight to turn up on time reliably too you know!:}

One of the earlier B767-300ER are up for sale aswell.... Flipping high timed!

Well I've been told that 2 744's (OJF&K?) have officially just been sold to Garuda. Not sure of their exact date of removal from QF service.

mingalababya

Yes VH-OJK is the one involved in the depressurization incident last year. :eek: OJH was the one that ran of the runway in Bankok. Pilots just wanted to get some golf practice in :D

.......get some golf pratice in
 

What An Hilarious Post

Oh So Original

Benny Hill........eat Your Heart Out

So .....

OJK & OJF have supposedly been sold!

The relevance of OJH is ...... ??

They are both bent !!!!!

Give that man a job as CEO!:}

the 767's to go
 

From one who should know (not me, I'm a nobody) OGA and OGB to go.
That can all change of course.

Garuda is getting rid of their B744's, why would they need ex QF aircraft?

Because the staples Qantas use are better!:}

Seriously though,for the price they are getting them at, do the Hajj and then do a greek renovation and burn them .:ok: