I fly with many "EX" Airforce crews, and love flying with them however..
I think its pretty wrong .. putting in RNZAF staff into NSN.. old boys club ex RNZAF members in nsn helping the force by recruitment to an already communist type airline now.. whats more.. think about these sun air type lads who actually have the initiative to save hard study, and aspire to something for which THEY have funded for .. in their civilian world.
Air NZ may be short of crew in a few years from now.. with 60+ domestic turbo props, but i doubt they are short of crews 'now'.. perhaps they could even use airnz intl crews whom ive heard have now been offered leave without pay?
if the rumors are true offering atpl's for 400 hour pilots i think this is sets complete double standards also.

THE BIG WIDE WORLD & tiny tot new zealand
 

Reading this and other posts about the NZ & Australian aviation scene makes me see how lucky I am. I left NZ 20yrs ago as no company in NZ would even give me an interview. Now, &0,000 hrs later, §000 Comd on B737 I am pleased I am not involved in the petty bitching that permeates the NZ scene. Those of you who are there, your comments and actions are a disgrace to the profession of aviation. If you dont like it- then SHUT UP and GET OFF THIS PLANET. There are alot of worthy pilots out there who deserve your jobs more than you.
MANGEMENT - You too are also a disgrace to aviation. Bad or poor management is the route of ALL discent within the ranks. Perhaps if YOU looked CLOSELY at yourselves and your management ability and style, you would see your shortcomings.
I realise this advice is useless because from my and others experience of ´kiwis who have done long haul OEs and come home looking for jobs´ you despise us because of our experience. There seems to be an attitude of ´flying in NZ is YERY DEMANDING etc etc. What routes in NZ will give the fol ? - T/O vis 150m Fz FG, 5hrs later land in a sand storm, then that evening CAT3 landing on mins.

Enjoy tiny tot land! :sad:

PF99, I'd hire ya. Maybe myself appear not so grumpy - in comparison :)

:bored:Talk about unstable! you sure you get through the psych Pegasus?

Good call Max rate. :D

Pegasus: Forget the med's this morning?

Give me a break Pegasus

Hardly a challenge watching your plane do all of the work from take-off to touchdown. You da man!!

Psych Test
 

Max Rate - Did your mgt do a psych test when they joined the company?
- So why make pilots do one now?
- Does it improve safety?
- Or just identify drinking pals?
I've been flying for 30yrs and I've seen the wheel re-invented a few times, but there is one thing that has never changed.
Have you ever noticed how **** and some airline staff are similar - they both float to the top.
:ok:

:}And have YOU ever noticed how bitter and twisted expat pilots' become when they figure out they cant bring their 1000, 0000 hrs back home and slip into the left hand seat of the aircraft of their choosing? It is called seniority. It aint perfect but it is the fairest way, get used to it.

Absolute Bollix

I rest my case...................

...only because it suits you doesn't it

well is suits me too.

bitter Bitter BITTER
 

It is obivious that the only one who is bitter - is MAX RATE !:}

Someone was whining that these seconded RNZAF pilots will get ATPL's with 400TT...when did that pop up?

Do you need an ATPL to yank the gear on the Q300? No? Really? Should be OK with a CPL then.

The legal minimum is 1500hrs total time for an ATPL issue. Never let the facts (or Law) get in the way of a good story.

Good come back, similar to the "I know you are but what am I?" that 6 year olds use.

me three.:ok:

NSN.

Couldn't agree more. It's like having an argument with a preschooler who can't spell .....obivious (sic). To show how grown up I am though, I would be happy for Delta or Pegasus to be my First officer..................as long as they don't touch anything! Of course they don't want to come back to "tiny tot land" (I thought that might have been Pegs preschool, he must have been beaten up by the other kids.) :}

Ummm seniority works for me ......:O

You know... you guys want to return home straight to the left hand seat of some jet with Air NZ..but most pilots (probably all) at Air NZ would have your quals, plus some, so whats the advantage to the Company...?

And why would you want to fly in freezing fog, Cat111, sand storms etc unless you had to (especially in one day) fraid I dont see that as a plus...

Good one, I see your multi crew skill is really showing through.
I know its a novel concept here in NZ.


Lets play your Seniority game! It works for me too kiddies, whats the bet my NZ licence was issued before yours, lets compare licence numbers shall we?

For F**** Sake.

Ahh, they must be gods aye?

LOL...nice bluff....:ok:.....lets see if the others take the bait

Licence? I have a foodtown card, does that count?