I wonder if the now 'ex-tropos' van drivers will be 'exchanging shirts' as RL predicted, hope so for their sakes.

I wonder if the CP will get to wear his old shirt too.

yeah, housemate works for aerotropics, and was working today and said the "apparent" new owners were walking around and the shed was locked down... meeting scheduled for monday morning to let everyone within ATAS know whats going on...

also, the infomation I have regarding the fuel incidents were due to pilot switching the fuel off in one instance and selecting the wrong tank in the other instance... not low/no fuel in either case..pilot muckup hence corrupt casa going after there check training procedures...

Is'nt Slingair part of the Kurry Kenny group?

Slingair
 

Owned by Kerry and Pat Slingsby, Slingair Heliwork WA is Western Australia's largest privately owned aviation company with a fleet of over 50 aircraft. So, no matter where you want to go in the Kimberley – they have the ability to get you there. :)

pacific flyer
 

Wrong. Pilot at YWBS miscalculated fuel and did not dip tanks b4 leaving YHID.The other incident had nothing to do with what you are on about.The engine failed and was subsequently replaced 2 days later.Pilot in first incident at YWBS was terminated.You don`t know what you are talking about best idea for you mind your own business!!!

why are they both considered "pilot related" incidents then if the engine failed?? where do you get your info??

Frank Burden
 

Wrong, sold to Curry-Kenny.

Told you all this days ago! :ugh:

You're all wrong. Lip Air went into voluntary receivership on Sat. 50 'innocent' employees with kids and mortgages all terminated. All because of an insane vendetta by certain CASA persons with personal agendas to get RL.
Why are they allowed to regulate in the area they previously had commercial ties in? It's guaranteed to create a conflict of interest.
CASA refused to 'approve' anyone to take over the aircraft or pilots from the suspended AOC holder. Read CAO 82.0 para 3 and get an appreciation of the economic power over operators, these people have.
Good luck to the ex employees and to the people of the Torres Straits.

Oh man...that really does suck for the guys. Thought they'd be maybe getting re-employed by incoming operator. Yeah, second Bilbert...good luck dudes...you'll be right. :sad:

HMMMM Strange.
 

Seems the application to wind up went in a month ago, two months after getting the previous suspension lifted by the courts. Looks like the decision to close up was made and the machinary put in motion long before the latest action from CASA. I wonder if his staff was aware he had done this.:confused:

From the ASIC website:

Extracted from ASIC's database at AEST 16:50:01 on 13/10/2008NameLIP-AIR PTY. LIMITEDACN068 117 537ABN88 068 117 537TypeAustralian Proprietary Company, Limited By SharesRegistration Date07/02/1995Next Review Date07/02/2009Status** UNDER EXTERNAL ADMINISTRATION and/or CONTROLLER APPOINTED **Locality of Registered OfficeAeroglen QLD 4870JurisdictionAustralian Securities & Investments Commissionhttp://www.search.asic.gov.au/_images/hr.gif
These are the documents that ASIC has most recently received from or in relation to this organisation. Page numbers are shown if processing is complete and the document is available for purchase. DateNumberPagesDescription11/10/20087E18495872505U Notification of Appt of Administrator Under S.436a, 436b,436c, 436e(4), 449b, 449c(1), 449c(4) or 449(6)08/09/20080248839253519G Notification of Application to Wind Up Company Under S.459p, 462 or 46401/09/2008024507922Not Imaged519D Notification of Making of Winding Up Order


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Looks like the decision was made almost two weeks ago. And it does not appear that decision was voluntary? :confused:

COMPANIES ACT 1981 S.459p, 462 or 464 - interesting?

Did the company advise the staff, two weeks ago, that there were problems? :=

Whatever the story, it is all over. I trust the staff secure their entitlements, history indicates otherwise, and are able to move on in their careers.

HMMMM Not Strange
 

Socket,

An application to wind up a company is usually made by a creditor chasing $$$$. This is what occurred over a month ago - it is not a decision by the company to close up.

Appointment of an administrator occurred on the 11th of this month, over a week after the second suspension. This is sign of problems.

I don't know of many private companies that have the capital behind them to keep operating for any period with no income and the high standing costs of aviation.

W

And the Board did not take a responsible decision to preserve any remaining equity to the benefit of the staff and creditors?

Or did the company trade insolvent? :confused:

Air Ace,

Try the right act - CORPORATIONS ACT 2001 NO. 50, 2001

The sections of the act referred to by the documents lodged suggest it is volunatry administration by the company.

Voluntary receivership was obviously the only way to get the aircraft fleet out of the the CAO 82.0 para 3 block applied by CASA. No safety issue here.

CASA in FNQ, this has happened before. CASA Officers having personal interests in GA companies, anyone remember the Falcon Airlines case back in the mid 90's ?

Not to sure what happens else where around Australia, but CASA in FNQ have had a history of this type of practice for over a decade now.

I really think CASA have a lot to answer for if this is indeed the case, as it's simply not fair.

Exactly Waghi Warrior. But careful, you will upset Lefthander Rock Thrower with those comments. :=

pacific flyer
 

:cool:well you should see the videos the passenger took at Warraber on the day of the incident,from loading to taxi to the failed takeoff attempt to the draining of the fuel from one a/c to another.Whoever the passenger was she certainly knew how to take a damning video.Oh she was on board the aforementioned a/c.Let us see where this takes this sad saga.

What's the latest on this, has RL taken CASA on in court yet? Is it all over for the company?

PS; Would love to see that video.

Troppo's has gone into administration. It was all over a couple of weeks ago. 1st creditors meeting apparently happened last Wed 22nd Oct. I believe that they have a couple of Bongo's, Pn68 & C208 still up on Horn Island as CASA did not allow them to be flown back to CNS! A few of the drivers were picked up by Westwing but not sure if all the boys and girls have found new jobs. Good luck to all going through the creditors process hope you all get what you are owed!

Alice, that would be a false hope. Once in administration and usually due to no large cash reserves the lawyers and accountans feast on the carcass, and creditors are usually best to cut their losses and only waste money on faxing a POD, just in case they get 2 cents in the dollar.

Sad but true.

J

I really don't know how companies would of let Troppos build up such a debt?? I flew for troppos a few years ago and I can remember on frequent occasions the refueller telling me that if the bill isn't paid by "4pm this arvo" no more gas!! Use to hear similiar stories from other suppliers heaps on CNS airport back then. they were always borrowing from peter to pay paul. Good luck to all involved.

You been thrown out cause you are a Wonghai customer.
No more drinks to you till you pay your bill

GC

Hey You No Gateway Customer!!!!

Wongai wednesday will be very quiet nowdays i recon! :sad:

I just love this quote from their website regarding maintenance:

Quote:
As I recall, and I was there, the only reason they started up their own maintenance was NO ONE would touch their aircraft anymore. They had run up bills of hundreds of thousands to just about everyone in Cairns. Was told CYA was owed over $200,000 when they refused to do any more work.

RL's standards (that couldnt be achieved) amounted to " give us free maintenance while we compete with you", sadly a lot of people let him get away with it. For that ass to denigrate the maintenance organisations that kept him flying while he was ripping them off just shows the measure of the man. Good ridance to him, sad for his employees.

MAX
 

Bubba, Johnny,,,,,, Ssssshhhhhhh

The latest news is that talks continue between the various stakeholders. RL was confident that a deal had been done last Thursday, but it failed to materialise.

He states that there two parties interesting in taking over operations, but declines to identify whom.

However, with the loss of virtually the entire Troppo's workforce any new company would need to recruit heavily.

On other matters, the local council is currently in the process of preliminary investigation works to extend and strengthening the main runway (08-26). At a cost of $2.2m, construction is anticipated to commence after the next wet season.

(courtesy of the Torres News)

The big house has been up for sale for some time. My parents were visiting that part of the world in July and bought back a copy of the
Torres News and I saw an ad for the big housse. Intersting to see what it sells for (if it sells)

Torres RPT to recommence mid November ?

Rumour has it that some pilots have been contacted to restart mid November, and engineering staff retained.

The P68 (that started A/T) departed HID on Thursday heading south, heard that a van will be heading north to join the other one still at HID. 2 islanders to be retained, other piston fleet to be sold off.

Sounds like 2 x vans and 2 x BN2's to conduct scheduled "service flights". (BN2's needed for Mabuiag, cant fit grand Van in and out of MAA).

A former A/T employee who specialises in travel and shared charter has spent a lot of time in TI and HID recently and has just opened a TI travel office. more info on Torres News website.

Westwing and Slingair are likely starters if A/T doesn't come back with interposed 3rd party travel agent / legitimate pseudo RPT.

If anyone gets some photos of the Wall at the Troppoz big house, could you pm me.
Been a while and would like to see if we are all still there

It is my very sad duty to inform any interested parties that the 'big wall' has in fact been removed from the house. (Now rented). Sorry to be the bearer of unfortunate news! :sad:

RL's "last ditch effort" to get Troppo's off the ground again will entail:

-employing only about one quater of the previous staff level
-focusing exclusively on the RPT flights in the Strait (i.e no operations out of Cairns)
-Less aircraft, most likely only 3 Caravans
-Providing a schedule similar to that in operation prior to October 3.

On other news, Outie street is up for sale (the lucky numbers being 3,5,29,33,35,37)!

(courtesy of the Torres News)

How does a company so far in debt and in administration get enough funds to obtain a 3rd Caravan? I'm no expert in this type of thing but it seems to me to be a pipe dream!
Good luck to anyone who wants to take on this operation!

how does a company in so much debt with so many creditors (i have the minutes of the creditors meeting) managed to get approved this new proposal past the creditors????

Latest.

Courtesy of the Torres News.

From the Torres News - A spokesman from CASA told the Torres News on the weekend that the agency is doing 'everything possible' to restore an air service to the Torres Straits. A mite credibility challenged I would have to suggest. Excuse me while I throw up.

Bruce Byron and PPrune cleaned up CASA FNQ didnt they? :confused: