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Jetconnect being rebranded perhaps? or More services?
Seems kind of silly to rebrand it as JQ, costs cant really go down any more can they? |
As we have discussed, putting JQ ontop of what is already there is just too much capacity. Mabye A319's would suit better.
But seing its Bruce going to Auckland, I would say Jetstar is the major reason the announcement, not Qantas...... Who Knows, Mabye some trans-tasman services ex AKL?? We will find out sometime tommorow.... |
New Base in AKL TT ops
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10am announcement (AEST)
Speculation is rife that Qantas is to expand the New Zealand operations of its cut-price subsidiary airline Jetstar. At present Jetstar operations trans-Tasman services out of Christchurch. The company has summoned the media to an announcement in Auckland later this morning and industry insiders are tipping the airline will take over some services operated by its parent company Qantas. |
AKL to the Australian east coast ports, same as CHC.
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Aren't a fair number of Qantas' flights ex-Auckland operated by JetConnect at the moment? If so, I wonder if this is the writing on the wall for JC, or whether it is a move to allow them to dedicate more resources to the domestic market?
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They could merge Jetconnect and Jetstar NZ, and have a Qantas version of Zeal320. Cabin Crew just have to remember which colour shirt to wear each day.
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Just found this.
Australian airline Jetstar will launch its transtasman services from Auckland with an $89 fare sale from midday today. The low cost carrier this morning confirmed plans to expand its New Zealand operations and has put up hundreds of seats to Sydney and the Gold Coast at $89 for just 89 minutes. The airline, a subsidiary of Qantas, will begin daily flights out of Auckland from April 28, subject to regulatory approval. Between eight and 10 per cent of Jetstar's 5000 weekly seats would be offered at the low price, although its normal one-way fares would be the industry entry standard of $199. The $89 offer applies to travel between April 28 and June 18 and applies to selected days and flights and excludes travel on public and school holidays. Jetstar chief executive Bruce Buchanan said the airline would complement Qantas' four daily Auckland-Sydney services and he saw no reason for the parent carrier to scale back its New Zealand presence. Buchanan said it was possible Jetstar could expand to fly domestic routes in New Zealand although it would depend on the impact of global economic crisis on demand. He said the airline would "run the rule" over possible domestic routes - likely to be the main trunk - early next year and make a decision on whether to launch around the same time as it starts its services out of Auckland. About 50 crew and backup staff would be needed to support the first aircraft to be based in Auckland. The airline started services to four Australian cities out of Christchurch three years ago. Set up in Australia in 2004, Jetstar now has about a 20 per cent share of that country's domestic market and also flies long haul routes to Japan, Vietnam, Thailand, Singapore and Hawaii. The transtasman market has heated up in the past year as Australians and New Zealanders look to travel closer to home because of higher long haul air fares and financial pressure. Pacific Blue has launched extra services out of Auckland, Air New Zealand has upgraded its aircraft on the route and Emirates is due to start its superjumbo A380 services from next February. |
Presumably J* will stick with the A320 for this AKL operation?
Anyone know about planes they have on order to match the start up date? Does this mean interviews are imminent for more pilots?! :) |
Hope that this turns out to be true, I passed selection with them earlier this year but with all of the delays in the 787 was told that new start dates weren't available until the first quarter of next year. This could work out quite well, an Auckland base would be perfect, fingers crossed.:ok:
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Jet * trans-tas/NZ cert
Can someone explain to me the benefits of "open skies" again??:mad:
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Can someone explain to me the benefits of "open skies" again??http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/censored.gif |
Does this mean an Auckland base for the boys??
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probably does
The quote from TVNZ was that they were opening an Auckland base!
Jetstar expands NZ service Oct 13, 2008 11:53 AM ................................. Buchanan says Jetstar's expansion on the trans-Tasman route, the largest international tourism market for both New Zealand and Australia, is a logical next step in developing Jetstar's New Zealand operations following the consistent and profitable performance of its current Christchurch services. "Jetstar is continuing to positively change and expand air travel across Australia and south east Asia which now includes a new growth phase for the New Zealand market," he says. "Jetstar expects to take a price leadership position on our newest trans-Tasman routes and will provide even greater choice for travellers. We remain committed to offering the lowest fares on the international markets we fly." At commencement, Jetstar's new services from Auckland will be supported by existing Jetstar airline operations conducted under its Australian Air Operator Certificate (AOC). Buchanan says that Jetstar will also formally apply for a future New Zealand Air Operator Certificate (AOC). "The application for a New Zealand AOC is a process which will take some time," he says. "It will provide Jetstar with flexibilities for any future flying opportunities that may arise." Jetstar also welcomed Auckland Airport as its second New Zealand operational base. "We are delighted to have Jetstar commence services from Auckland," Auckland Airport CEO Simon Moutter says. "This announcement supports the strong potential for growth in the trans-Tasman market, and will ensure New Zealand's gateway continues to serve demand for travel to and from our closest neighbours". http://images.tvnz.co.nz/tvnz_site_images/shim.gif Source: ONE News |
Shall we start that arguement again about Whenuapai being turned into a smaller international airport? :} :ouch:
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No akl base for tech crew. To be operated from elsewhere.
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Open Skies?
Open Skies my a#se.
Maybe the (recent) posters flogging Kiwis for trying to get into Aussie by buying that already dead duck Ansett might reflect on the fact that it was the NZ tax payer that copped the tab for that whole sorry mess to the tune of nearly a $1B. Selwyn Cushing and his mates should be in jail. |
So are there many kiwis in Jetstar?
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Puma Pants...no pilot base in AKL are you sure that's correct. From the horses mouth it came and to the contrary.
Hey, that was 48hrs ago things change - maybe you're correct. |
Very reliable source states no tech crew basing in Akl. Ops to be done from Australian side and overnighting. Cabin crew and engineering to be established in akl.
But hey, it's thursday now and all will probably have changed. |
And then when they start their domestic ops they will do that from their Christchurch / Auz base? Is that feasible?!
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JQ A 320s
Somebody else may be able to confirm this but my understanding is that JQ A320s have less grunt than Air NZs and will have some problems operating off Rwy 34 at Wellington. They also are restricted at Queenstown and Rotorua so JQ has significant problems with entry to NZ domestic IF this is true?
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Looking at both their websites:
Jetstar 24,480lbs AirNZ 26,500lbs Good point BGQ. Is that enough to keep Jetstar out of a domestic network in NZ?? |
BGQ and horserun, I'm not sure why but those figures are incorrect. JQ A320's are no different to NZ's as far as engine rating is concerned (IAE's with 26.5k rating).
As far as I know, there are no current restrictions for the A320 to operate in to or out of Wellington. |
Somebody else may be able to confirm this but my understanding is that JQ A320s have less grunt than Air NZs and will have some problems operating off Rwy 34 at Wellington. They also are restricted at Queenstown and Rotorua so JQ has significant problems with entry to NZ domestic IF this is true? |
So whats the latest ? Will crews be based in NZ or in OZ ? Tell us what the horses mouth said today.
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Starting off with 1 A320 based in Auckland with AKL crews.
Do JQ have a similar or close Pilot salary's to what ANZ A320's crews give? Mabye some transfers?? |
Sunstar
No.
Pilots to the opposition? Not likely. It'll take about 18 months but my money is on the following.......... JetConnect "Sorry boys, we're closing up shop. Thanks for all your help." JetConnect pilots: "****." Jetstar "Hello boys, we've got some shiny new planes here, complete with a sh!thouse contract and payscales. Give us a call when you got A320 on ya licence..." JetConnect Pilots: "****" To say JQ and QF and NZ and PacBlue are all going to survive on the NZ maintrunk is insane. Sadly, if its cheaper to make someone redundant than train him for the new job, can it go any other way? Anyone see it any differently? Edit: I apologise if it seems insensitive to any JetConnect guys. Just an opinion. |
JetConnect "Sorry boys, we're closing up shop. Thanks for all your help." JetConnect pilots: "****." o say JQ and QF and NZ and PacBlue are all going to survive on the NZ maintrunk is insane. |
Well, if an article that I read this morning (it's an e article, and I didn't take notice of who published it) where Buchanan was interviewed, is a true indication of his plans, then it will be us Aus-based JQ pilots who say "...****", and the Jetconnect pilots who say "...Feckin choice cuzzy bro"!!
He's quoted as saying that the delay to the B787 is good, because it gives JQ time to bed-in the A320 plans for NZ, prior to possibly introducing the Nightmareliner across the Pacific from - of all places - CHC. Ah...the notion of loyalty is, if not dead, then a one-sided concept (and not from their side). Now...what's Etihad's/Emirates'/Korean's/Air China's/Asiana's/Cathay's phone number???? :ugh: |
.....and what about FlyDubai, starting up mid 2009 and looking for DEC's; with 54 new 800's ordered and a tax free package of about $225,000AU (or possibly more now the AU$ is down). :p:p
www.flydubai.com |
"As far as I know, there are no current restrictions for the A320 to operate in to or out of Wellington."
Not for the Air NZ ones there aren't.....now. Air NZ use a computerised Take Off Data Calculator system that ACARS' the TOD to the aircraft (or Flight Planning room) Without this system (which I believe Jetstar don't have), using the tabulated figures from the individual runway take off charts, there were payload restrictions on RWY34. Admittedly these were for trans-Tasman flights. I don't think there would be any problems with domestic fuel loads. This system made a huge difference to the amount of thrust reduction available on take-offs on all runways (with associated fuel and maintainance cost savings) and meant basically unrestricted loads out of PMR, DUD (03) as well as WLG (34). |
Jetstar have advertised in the auckland weekend herald employment section for 3 senior person roles for a NZ AOC.
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Jetconnect pilots: ****! John borghetti has just announced to jetconnect that its 300/400 fleet will be replaced with 737-800s throughout 2009 starting mid 2009.
Hmmmm? Looks like Jetconnect lives to see another day. |
There is a piece of this puzzle still to be revealed...
Jetstar are setting up a NZ AOC to operate where? Tasman, domestic, Pacific?? Jetconnect getting B738 domestic; PB operating B738 domestic/south pacific; Air New Zealand doing all of the above. Somethings got to give. Is the B738 for the QF brand a smoke screen??:hmm: |
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