I am not sure where they will get VB fo's from to upgrade on PB conditions.

Suitable ones have either had a go at command, and are now in the sin bin for 12mths, or will take an E jet command (heaps of those available) on lots more coin than PB conditions.

Anyone who goes for the offer of PB conditions (current VB pilots) would have rocks in their head - and will be assisting VB's master plan of reducing term and conditions.

And what makes you think there will be any shortage of those??

Any shortage of what??

If you read it properly, I am talking about current VB FO's accepting PB conditions for a 737 command. There may be a shortage of those. Anyone ready for a command would most likely take an Ejet command, and earn heaps more than a 737 command on PB terms.

Anyone who goes for the offer of PB conditions (current VB pilots) would have rocks in their head - and will be assisting VB's master plan of reducing term and conditions.

Any shortage of these

Not only will the VB pilots taking up positions with PB severly undermine current PB pilots, and therefore cause a great deal of animosity between the two groups. Accountants beware - I do see a link between low morale, disengaged staff and perhaps not operating the aircraft as cost effectively as possible.

It's a curly issue really, as now PB pilots are part of the VB group they are equally entitled to apply for command (and other) opportunities at VB/VA. However it would be very unlikely they would get one with the start date PB pilots have in the VB group. But all things being equal VB pilots are entitled to apply for opportunities at PB even though it is a hard one to swallow. A bigger issue is the ongoing use of VB pilots on VB wages which is avoiding layoffs but costing the company. Pb could solve problems easily by just raising the Capt's salary. I'm guessing a few JC guys will be over soonish anyway.

I don't think many VB guys applied anyway and I suspect the ones that do will get their hours and leave.

As an offside my uneducated opinion on VA - I would pull the pin and "delay" launch for 2 yrs. Sell the 777 slots and recoup some of the start ups costs. I definitely do think not think this is the time for expansion even though VA is a valid business case.

Was told today that the VB aircraft operating the DPS services are all 737 800's in Pacific Blue livery

VH VOQ Peta Pan
VH VOX Missy Mainlander
VH VUM Brindabella Blue
VH VUN Madelaide

Also told that all PB Denpaser sectors except BNE-DPS, ADL-DPS PER-DPS, will offer FREE Foxtel TV Live to air.
The $9.90 looks like it will only be charged on the outgoing sectors above, , not inbound to Australia.

It also seems that no seating configuration / seat pitch will be altered on these aircraft

why? i thought the jc guys were on the same or better money? also thought they were home more.

Doubt the Foxtel will work all the way there. The movies would be good to inlcude in the ticket price but they dont like doing things like that at VB.

wirgin blew : Do you want to put your house on that :ok:

No doubt the L2A is free because they cant guarantee the signal. Movies will be shown at $9.90, pay per view

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Foxtel operate off the Optusnet satellite?

If it does, it shouldn't have any trouble, especially at altitude, all the way up into Thailand. We were utilising that satellite up the other end of Indonesia, admittedly close to the horizon @ ground level.

mmmmm,,,,,off to Bali after the 'execution' of those cowardly bastards.

Are helmets and flak jackets checked or carry on luggage on VQ?

Back to the Live2Air. Does VOX even have it installed? Going to be along trip with nothing if your flying BNE-DPS.

VOX has live TV installed.

VOX does not have live to air. A/C without live to air will are fitted with Digi Players. A portable entertainment system of sorts.