Pass a Frozo can be safely ignored as he doesn't know what he is talking about, as this post demonstrates:

If QF thought there were 20 people surplus to requirements they would be gone in a flash, industrial action or no industrial action.

Similarly with outsourcing. These decisions are not made overnight as a result of a paltry 5% wage claim....Except the Board and Management of QF are stupid enough to do so, in which case what's the point of working for idiots?

What Strike?
 

I think it is timely to remind everyone reading here, the QANTAS LAME's

are taking PROTECTED INDUSTRIAL ACTION consisting of banning the

unreasonable overtime we are expected to do on our rostered days off.

This is not a strike but it has shaken QF management to the core as they

have made redundant 30% of their engineers and now do not have enough

to do the daily planned maintenance let alone any breakdowns.

They rely on daily overtime to cover the short fall of manpower.

They have destroyed wages & conditions to such an extent more engineers

are walking out the door to the "Low Cost Carriers" that are paying

more that $30,000.00 pa than more than QF.

If there is disruption to the schedule it is the direct fault of management.

If they stand people down and escalate the PIA we have the option to hold meetings

away from work which may take 2 days to inform all the engineers around

the world of the proceeding and to take votes etc.

No mention of strikes from the union, only from QANTAS Managers and their lying media campaign.

And don't forget the fifth columnists from places like ADL.........:=

And they won't train their own staff on differences!!!!! :ugh:

Yeah Short know of one SLAME waiting 3 years to get differences training for D4, not that we see them much now.

lol, should make for an interesting night on Wednesday and an even more interesting Thursday morning.:ok:

Yes, what it says to most of us that look at this situation (except the media, as they have their clients) is that it is bad management just trying to cover their ar$es.

Bad union management who cant hold up there end of an agreement. Greedy lames who conveniently omit that they get a free level every 4 years along with steddy 3% wages rises except when they took a wage freeze but got some points instead. Your new leaders have caused all this and if it wasnt for them h245 would still be going strong but alas you only get what you elect. :ugh:

Mr Qantas
The company could not survive with 10 Lames per crew and only doing one task card per day per Lame.
We have to deal with reality here, and changing situations. So now Qantas Maintenence has become much more efficient we should be rewarded as is the Board of Management.

versus the incompetents who run engineering, and we now cant maintain our fleet(s).

absolute genius.

To the boys and girls flying in our planes - do not ignore any defect you come across. Write them all down, fill up those logbooks and make sure there is a spare handy.

We love nothing more than maintaining planes in tip top condition.

Thanks for the support many of you have shown. Unfortunately we're all in the same 'boat'.

Beyond It!
 

The truth hurts! And how! The O/T bans are just an appetiser. Let us see the shameful few. Who cares how many. Bring on the stoppages. Need the rest anyway due to fatigue. This ship is on the brink now! So many truly do not care what happens any more. No fear at all. Nothing left. This is what happens when you disrespect a workforce that truly loved and took deep pride in their work. So many beyond reason. Is this management. This is a tragedy. To the bottom of my heart, I hope it hurts and there are job losses! Starting at the top!

I've even got a company issued black pen with lots of ink. Love filling out the tech log.
Good luck folks - there are many within that are behind you.

Mine is a blue pen and I bought it myself.

I too love filling in log books.

Mine is the cabin condition log.:ok:

Good luck fellas.

How wonderful would it be to see dickson skulking out of the joint with a bloody nose.

Yes we do care any more, but only about aircraft safety not about managers bonuses.

We care about safety above profit not like the few managers.

They only see that the share price has tumbled and their FREE share options

that they will have to pay $5.00 $6.00 plus per share are useless if they exercise them.

The only way to make money on them and to make short term profits to boost share price

and dump the free millions of shares and then move on G Dick, M Jacko, P Greed etc

They have planned this for years.

This is more than inside trading, it is much much worse,

It is a pity that ASIC do not see this.

They set up the APA sale issue just to inflate the share price and exercise

millions of share options at premium and sell off to make MILLIONS of DOLLARS at our expense......

Just another criminal exercise in ripping off the Company and hoodwinking ASIC for personal gain...............

The long term future of QANTAS has nothing to do with their plans only

long term plans of GD MJ PG etc

Just for those who may be interested. There was almost as much interest both direct and indirect to the ALAEA office late in the week regarding our ballot result from tech and cabin crew. Can I please just ask a couple of favours from both groups.

No snags on napkins or last minute annunciator verbal requests. Everything needs to be documented, it will make it just that little bit harder for their underlicenced "alternative workforce".

cheers

And don't forget to write defects in the techlogs, as difficult to understand as humanly possible,and then shoot through and get home to the family as quickly as possible. I'd say a minimum of 3-4 snags every turnaround should do nicely.

I am dedicated to providing the BEST quality maintenance and love my job. We all fly on these from time to time and we need to keep that standard reguardless of the pressures put on us. I WAS once a "speedy lets fix it to minimalise delays but that allitude died along with lost of my fellow work mates. The BOOKS are there for a reason so put up that umbrella and cover your backsides, our licenses are paying for our lifestyles that are going down hill. Stick togeather and ignore +dont reply to the "company related oxygen thiefs" that post properganda, it will only cause this forum to be locked out and we need all the feedback from ALL our mates world wide to remain united. Even though I would never resign, being locked out does not worry me and there is life outside QF. If you lok in the PPM there is provision for taking extended breaks during excessive workloads, and PLEASE would ALL you guys closely read the ETOPS manual and once interpreted pass it on to all, then wait and see how many e/r flights become non e/r. This is a big one and has caused IOC and maint. watch serious greef. Study the tee5rc on e/r flight berfore arrival. VXK STBY rudder actuator has been leaking for ages and I believe it should be repaired so watch out for it. I will keep researching the QF system and post any relevent info as it arises. United we stand. On a finishing note, I feel sorry for those who require O/T to keep their heads above water and have no suggestions to this problem appart from taking a leaf out of GD's spending cutbacks. I hope I have not crossed any lines as PIA support is required by all for some sort of outcome. As stated before DONT answer the corporate/manager blogs as it only incites nasty comments due to highly emotional poeple and we need to keep this thread to continue as all parts of the QF family seem to be attracted to this thread and it is a valuable tool for all departments and will affect everybody, cheers SIKWOG. PS spell check didnt work so sorry.

Futher more to my last post, and I refer to the alaea exec's ast post, operating crew of an A/C including F/A and obligated to enter all defect in the cabin condition log in accordance with the policy manual, there will be die hard supporters or the protected action taken that will possibly report your actions for not following these proceedures set buy the company forcing those into line to carry out them to carry out what is required by qantas law, so if you dont want to be deciplined make your self familiar with the new requirements as I have personally seen that not all CSM'S are up to date on what they are obligated to do and have not been classed in these matters. When you fill out the cabin log, be sure you are aware in the PPM procedure as it is now a legal doccument, not like the old CCL whick was a scratch pad with no accountability. Pilots, verbals are a thing af the past, we want everything reported, no exceptions. If you guys want to have a safe and reliable airplane you need to report all abnormal operations and have them investigated by experienced LAME's and if you believe this has not happened it is your life at risk and all on board. To all that read this remember engineers stay on the groung and are safe from catastrophy so employing alternative engineers you will NOT recieve any guaranties and the MEDA system will not apply during this period for obvious reasons. The pilots need us as thay want to go home and hug their kids as well as the ALAEA members. Strike Breakers will make us into Garuda airlines.

Guys/gals, you have a lot of support that you probably don't even know about. I'm not a QF engineer and I stand to be inconvenienced a bit in the near future but like many I am just sick and tired of management types screwing down T&C's to the extent that it compromises safety. As an Australian I have always been proud of the standards of our aviation industry, Ausi blue collars have historically taken pride in their work (as they do now) and more important than earning a million bucks was the fact that they knew they were good, they knew their work was top knotch. The ability to achieve this has been slowly but surely ripped away from us over the last two decades by management types who only care about making a million bucks and don't see the value in putting in the extra hard yards to maintain that high standard. They don't understand your professional pride because they've never experienced it themselves. I admit that the industry has needed to change over the years, needed to evolve and keep up with world wide trends, but where do you draw the line? When do you say " No. In Australia we're willing to foot that bill in order to maintain our standards, our safety record, and our reputation" You guys are drawing that line now. Good on ya.
I think you say too much on this thread, decide on what you are personally willing to do and then go quietly about doing it. We will be backing you. Talk in your crew rooms etc but this is a public forum and Jo public doesn't understand how your ability to do your job has been eroded and will take many of these comments as militant unionist banter.
My 2 cents.

Good luck guys. Some years ago I received a pen from QF management as a generous Christmas bonus.

Time to see if it works I guess!

There's words going around in KL at present that someone is trying to poach a few more LAME as standby for the strike. Have anyone been approached by them? Obviously those were made redundant ~2 year ago.

Captain, a lot of these guys will have transit authorities only, so these guys can sign up to a check 2 with limited ability for signing defects. These guys cannot delegate tasks to others and then certify for them, they must carry out the job themselves. So if you do see one signature only for a whole check and it is a ring in ask questions. Qantas has lost their transit/maintenance authoritie approvals before, it would kill them now.

Warning - Technical Content for Pilot's / Flight Engineers.




For example, one of the Managementous elitous (cryptic clue) is in possession of only a Rolls Royce D4 Mechanical licence. (For those unfamiliar, this is the engine fitted to the 'Classic 747-300'). Having an engine licence allows the individual to sign for all maintenance on that engine in the mechanical category.

When it comes to certifying for other tasks on that engine or to the airframe that that particular engine is fitted to, under the power invested in him by Civil Aviation Order 100.90, his priveleges are extended into other trades in the following manner:-

( Jump down to summary now if what's below is too much )

3.3 Engine Category Privileges: With respect to maintenance of aircraft, certification of maintenance within the engine category may be made by persons holding the appropriate engine rating(s) with the following limitations:
(f) maintenance of electrical and instrument components which form part of an engine system limited to:
(i) on all aircraft:
(A) external mechanical adjustment to facilitate correct operation of engine systems; and
(B) replacement of components connected by electrical plugs, terminal connections (other than soldered connections) or pipelines — but excluding those functional tests and adjustments requiring the use of external specialised test equipment; and
(ii) on aircraft approved for I.F.R. operations;
(A) daily or manufacturers’ equivalent inspection; and
(B) condition and security of attachment of wiring, plumbing and components; and



3.4 Engine Category — Electrical Category Privileges: Certification of maintenance within the electrical category may be made by persons holding the appropriate engine rating(s) as follows:
(b) electrical systems classified as Electrical Group I in aircraft approved for I.F.R. operations or electrical systems classified as Electrical Group 2 or Group 20 limited to:
(i) daily or manufacturers’ equivalent inspection; and
(ii) condition and security of attachment of wiring and components.

3.5 Engine Category — Instrument Category Privileges: Certification of maintenance within the instrument category may be made by persons holding the appropriate engine rating(s), as follows:
(a) on all aircraft — compensation of direct reading magnetic compasses;

(d) on aircraft classified as Instrument Group 20, limited to:

(i) daily or manufacturers’ equivalent inspection; and
(ii) condition and security of attachment of wiring, plumbing and components.

3.6 Engine Category — Radio Category Privileges: Certification of maintenance, excluding operational checks, within the radio category may be made by persons holding the appropriate engine rating(s), as follows:

(b) on aircraft approved for I.F.R. operations, limited to:

(i) daily or manufacturers’ equivalent inspection; and
(ii) condition and security of attachment of wiring and components.


3.7 Engine Category — Airframe Category Privileges: Certification of maintenance within the airframe category may be made by persons holding the appropriate engine rating(s), as follows:
(a) daily inspection or manufacturers’ equivalent inspection;
(b) inspection, removal and fitting of engine mountings, cowlings and firewalls;
(c) independent inspections.


Summary,
Basically, this individual is limited to signing for what he's licenced on and for carrying out a 'daily inspection'. Management would have dreams of utilising him either in PER, MEL or SYD domestic as he can legally carry out transits.............providing there are no 'defects' with the aircraft.

Would be a shame if during each sector, the log consisted of ;

-1 off warning light globe blown. (mmmm, electrical Lame required)

-1st obs/2nd obs headset 'crackly' (mmmm, radio Lame required)

-Capt's/ F/O's seatbelt frayed (mmmm, airframe Lame required)

There are many more examples of other management goons and the (alternative workforce) who have partial / licences and/or transit authorities.

"They can't fix defects or apply MEL's"

Not asking for any 'phantom' defects, just treat every flight like a 'Check Ride'. If you were on a check ride and didn't correctly record defects with your ship in the log, i'm sure you'd be in hot water quick smart.

Annoying items requiring LAME & MEL

Cabin lights

Annunciator lts, especially IGD PRESS

Oxygen pressure

Background lights

RADAR returns & tilt problems

HF VHF glitches

Chillers, cart lifts, seat belts, seat recline, ash trays

Emergency Egress Lights (EEL) lifting

no smoking fasten seat belt signs (amasing how many blow every flight)

air noisy doors

fuzzy screens

printer paper

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need I say more?

Sock it to 'em guys/gals, love the strength that is being shown here lets hope it filters thru to where it counts, the actual grounding of planes due maint issues.
I think pilots & spanner manipulators are one & the same, it takes BOTH to keep a plane aloft. Pilots & engineeres alike have kept planes flying because of the passion we share but when the greed filters down to where it hurts the 'drone' workers then time to do a little "shop floor management"
They (Management) can't hurt us, where bleedin' but they can't hurt us!:ok:

CW

Mr Qantas
 

bite me :D :D :D

Good work guys, all the best. You only have to fly out of LHR on a regular basis to see the difference between great engineers (you guys) and very average ones (though I admit some are OK).

Will be doing my best to find every snag I can!

Cheers

Well I hope this goes somewhere this time. A couple of months ago, when you were going to take protected industrial action, I was getting all fired up and started logging stuff and was trying to encourage other cabin crew to do the same to support you, then all of a sudden it appeared as though you guys had rolled over and given in to the company for less than what you were asking. I was disappointed. You are the one group who really has a chance to take this greedy company on and possibly win.

I noticed last time, when I spoke to some (many?) Australian LAMEs doing transit checks, that they didn't seem that interested in us logging cabin defects at all; some even found it annoying! I really hope you guys are going to be united and all on the same page this time. Maybe your union should contact some other unions for some support - all legal, above-board stuff, of course. I am quite aware of what we legally can and can't do.

Good luck guys. I really hope you have some success this time. I am sick of seeing this company go to ****, especially Engineering - the heart and soul of this once great company.

GEE Is that a nic I see in the leading edge of that pitot probe ???

I think that might disturb the natural airflow over the probe,I'd better report that to a lame whose decisions are governed by stringent criteria laid down in the manufacturers maintenance manual.:ok:

and for you pilots.....
dont be coerced into doing any engine runs after maintenance to save time or for convienience sake.
Drag the LAME into the flight deck and throw him into the left seat....

And if you see anything that resembles a hydraulic leak, of any size, put in the book first then tell the engineer (else you will be talked out of it). Looking at the state of the fleet, you wont have to look very hard.

my 2 bob worth....

cheers

But hang on.......

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...rom=public_rss

:ok:

MR QANTAS,what the f@ck would you know about H245,troll

Dixon's plea will fall on deaf ears.

The management of Qantas disengaged itself from the employees a long time ago through their disgraceful grab for cash when the rest of the employees took a pay freeze because "times were tough".

What Dixon and his cronies do not understand is the employees of Qantas are cheering the LAME's on and will be doing everything in their power to assist their cause.

Why?

The employees so dislike and disregard the management of Qantas that they now work to look after themselves as a group and the liars at the top can basically go and get stuffed.

I just picked up a new pen. I will be checking the qualifications of every LAME that tries to sign out an aircraft as required under CAR 233.

Take Five!

Mr Flugbegleiter, great post and thanks for your support. I can understand your frustrations at those that do not welcome tech snags in the books. We have to deal with these individuals as well. As per the company procedures manual, it is the responsibility of Flt crew and Lame to snag any defect observed. Both inside of industrial action, and out of. The majority of us welcome any defect written, as it helps to maintain our fleet to the safety standards that our crew and passengers deserve. So do not baulk at writing any defect observed, or any suspision that something seems amiss with an aircraft system.

Defect Write Off
 

All Flight Crew and Cabin Crew Be aware that for all work done, defects fixed/ written off it is a QANTAS and CASA requirement that approved data is used and referenced.

eg1. "Replaced seat cushion in accordance with Component Maintenance Manual 25-25-00".

A quick "Replaced as requested". IS NOT as per company and CASA Regs.

eg2. Wear on #1 main wheel within Boeing Maintenace Manual Limits 32-45-00. Tyre pressure checked at 210 psi using tyre pressure Gauge TP0100001132.

All calibrated equipment used must be referenced and any pressures, torques, values, temperatures,etc should be provided.

Strike breakers MAY try the quick write off.IT IS NOT as per company and CASA Regs.

Also release, part numbers, serial numbers must be provided, for traceability.

Strike breakers MAY no do this.

Thank for the support! :ok:

What are M/R's & tech logs for anyway? Other than the obvious for the safe recording/reporting & rectification of found damage/problems that must be fixed. Why do we need to do this more & more from now on when we should have been doing this anyway for safety? why? Because you (as in all pilots) 'where' too damn nice that's why, Not any more, like I said before, time for some 'shop floor management' before the goons at the top bleed you all dry!:ok:

Again good luck to those with the 'tools' to do the job


CW

Flugbegleiter and CC comrades
 

Hi guys

Thanks for the support. Never mind the grumpy old engineers. Some LAMEs are ALWAYS acting like work is an inconvenience to their coffee break.

The majority of LAMEs will thank you in their heart of hearts for keeping them in a job and helping us all to stick it to those who deserve it.

Please, in all the heated passion and noise of this dispute, remember the comfort and safety of the travelling public. Despite what the Big Swinging GDick says, it's the bums on seats that keep us all in a job. Not the shareholders! We only have jobs because the customers keep flying with us. So please ensure that the cabin is safe and comfortable for them.

Please report:
Call lights, no smoking/fasten seat belt/return to seat lights - even if there is still one bulb operating in the light
Ovens slow to heat
Coffee brewers (any number of potential defects)
PA defects, real or perceived (may take two LAMEs to work that one out!)
Video defects, especially during pushback & power transfer, interrupting your safety briefing (B734's especially - it's been happening alot!)
"Missing" safety and/or demo equipment
Soiled seat cushion covers and especially seat backs (they take alot longer than cushion covers to replace) - even if it's only water. It may be a body fluid or toxic chemical - who's to know?
Dodgy magazine rack springs (could inhibit a pax safe egress during an emergency)
Rattles in the ceiling
Air noise around the doors
Liquid dripping from aircon ducts ("maybe it's just condensation, but I'm not a LAME so I'll report it anyway")
Lifting carpet (trip hazards)
Missing seat trim (might cut someone)
Missing or loose floor track trim
"Is that crazing or cracking on that pax window? Is it the inner, middle or outer pane?"
In the interest of supplying the service they have paid for and have a right to expect from a supposedly premium airline, especially our F/C & B/C customers, PLEASE ask your passengers to report any real or perceived safety, IFE or passenger comfort defects!!!

Thank you and Good luck!

I can hear the jungle drums beating now.........

Personally, as SLF, I totally applaud and support the efforts of ALL QF maintenance, CC, and technical crew to ensure that you provide us with serviceable and safe aircraft to travel in! :D