cx587 - Thats interesting!!! I guess they did not read your application to well! Good luck, hope you at least get an interview! What hours/license/qualifications you got?
KRUSTY 34 - :ugh: I wonder if anyone else has been contact for an interview. Regards TOJP. |
TOJP,
Canadian PPL 100.5 fixed wings Currently studying in UNSW Aviation Mgmt They told me that the Chief Pilot pulled my resume out for an interview. I wonder if the Chief Pilot already knows that it is a Canadian licence or it is just the HR being difficult insisting it must be Australian licence. Cx587 |
Depends on what planet the Chief Pilot is on!!!
When you find out, let me know? |
KRUSTY 34,
Will do |
REX Cadetship.
Hi
Heard a rumor regarding the rex cadetship, They have selected a flight school in SA. The course is 1 year and during that time the cadets would NOT get any kind of training wage? (How are you meant to live??) Would the 80k cover all living costs as well? Has anybody been called for interview? the plan was to start the cadets in December. Anyone care to comment? TOJP. |
December is only 4 weeks away. I doubt they will be up and running during the silly season. If the cadets don't live near the flight school they will need to come up with another 20k + in living expenses for the year.
Not everyone will be living at home with mommy & daddy so I can only imagine some of the cadets that get accepted into this program will have to knock REX back unless their parents have an endless money tree. At least 100k minimum commitment is a realistic figure. NO ATPL subjects included in the price. Is it worth spending all that money with an airline that may not exist in a few years time? |
KRUSTY 34 - :ugh: You would be well advised to listen to KRUSTY34, because your next post indicates a pretty poor grasp of how this industry actually works for someone considering signing a loan for $80,000. He may actually be on your side! The course is 1 year and during that time the cadets would NOT get any kind of training wage? (How are you meant to live??) Would the 80k cover all living costs as well? |
Thanks Harry,
I think REX management are hoping against hope that there are enough gullible people out there to actually make this thing work. From what I have seen so far it is not a plan. It is a flawed attempt to solve a problem at the expense of some young and probably not too industry savy people! In it's current form, it is no more than a scam. It will fail because those that sign up to it will not have done their homework. Those that do their homework, will not sign up to it! The reality is that the industry may need to go down this path, but the rewards at the end will have to be sustantially greater than what they are at present. Ironically, if the industry had not spent years driving down pay and conditions, all of this may not have been necessary! |
They have selected a flight school in SA ...disco |
If they're doing an el cheapo course through FT Adelaide then $80K may get them close to the mark.
The QF cadets were eligible to get a living away from home allowance from the government whilst they did their training. I think that extended to rental assistance also. I think it may have been a couple of hundred per week. It ain't much but it helps. It's still a seriously crappy deal though! |
It's still a seriously crappy deal though! |
Keg,
When you were there back in the halcyon days of the AAC I think your course was worth close to $100k with residential included. I dunno whether you blokes received any allowances whilst in residence, however I remember some phenomenal figures being touted by the boys of OAS, etc. From memory the Indonesian boys were getting between $20 to $100 per week from their airline, which was the lowest sum (from memory). |
G'day Hugh, $304 per month! It didn't go far when we had that 'down time' in June and had the four weeks off whilst you guys slaved away getting the Merpati guys through their courses. I recall being told every day 'no flying tomorrow' but no one could ever tell me 'no flying for the next two weeks' so that I could hop a jet and go home for a bit! :ok: I knew the bouncers at the Circuit by name at the end of that four weeks and blew about four months worth of allowances I reckon! :}
Take out Citation, Cap10, doing the CPL and multi IFR the way we did it (great training but the expensive way really), accommodation and messing, and possibly ATPL subjects then I reckon that $80K would be the 'bare bones' price. Of course, the deal with Rex may not include any additional hours that may be needed or any additional theory assessments also. |
REX Press Release
Nope, not in SA. REX AND MANGALORE AIRPORT ANNOUNCE CREATION OF PILOT ACADEMY Regional Express (Rex) and Mangalore Airport Pty Limited (MAPL) announced today that they have signed an MOU for a Joint Venture to create a new Professional Pilot Academy to be named the Civil Aviation Training Academy (CATA). This Academy will be situated at Mangalore Airport, Victoria, one and a half hours from Melbourne CBD, and is expected to receive its first batch of 20 students on 10 December 2007. Giving details of the training, Jim Davis, Rex Chief of Staff, said “Under our intensive live-in training program, we expect the students to graduate with a Commercial Pilot Licence, a Multi Engine Rating and a Command Instrument Rating within 32 weeks. CATA has purchased an initial batch of 5 new Piper Warrior III aircraft with state of the art “glass” cockpits for the first training course, as well as a new twin-engine Piper Seminole for multi-engine and Instrument training. The Academy intends to accept up to 80 pilots in the first year but has plans to grow the intake to 350 a year by the third or fourth year of operations. We intend to be the premier institute for training professional pilots in Australia.” “The first few intakes of students will be reserved for the cadets recruited under the Rex Pilot Cadet scheme announced earlier, after which the Academy will accept private students as well as those sent from other airlines both locally and internationally. The total cost of training, including full board and lodging, is expected to be priced at around $80,000 per student.” “We are currently in the process of reviewing approximately 700 applicants Rex has received so far and we will select an initial 20 for our inaugural cadet course. This will be followed 3 months later by our second batch of 20 cadets. Upon successful completion of the training, the cadets will go through 2 months of ground school and simulator training with Rex before taking up the appointment of First Officer flying in the right hand seat for our company.” “This initiative will enable Rex to have a guaranteed supply of highly trained pilots entering its ranks, helping to ensure sufficient pilot numbers for both current needs and future growth.” Rex Chief of Staff, Jim Davis, said today. Captain Keith Wallace, General Manager of Mangalore Airport, commenting on the joint venture, stated that “MAPL has almost completed the second stage of the brand new Academy, which includes air-conditioned accommodation, a commercial kitchen with dining room, a purpose built learning centre, with classrooms, briefing rooms, dispatch centre and CATA offices. Mangalore is a large, well equipped airport, with dual all-weather runways, and published Instrument Approach Procedures including NDB, VOR and RNAV (GNSS).” “The owners have invested heavily in upgrades to the airport, such as a Fibre-optic LAN to connect all the students, learning centre and administration. Runway 18/36 has been recently resurfaced. An examination centre has been created for Assessment Services Pty Ltd to enable students to sit for CASA theory examinations at Mangalore Airport” 2 “Captain Wallace stated that the investment to date in buildings, runway works, and infrastructure has been achieved without financial assistance from any sources, and the project is being shaped as the focal point of an Aviation Cluster, with the central role of providing an internationally competitive training solution for the airline industry. In doing so, other aviation related industries and activities will be introduced to the Goulburn Valley Region of Central Victoria, and beyond” “The third equity partner in the joint venture, Moorabbin Flying Services (MFS), was chosen to provide the most effective, high quality training solution to the airline industry, at a time when well qualified pilots are being sought by all levels in the industry. Giving details of the shareholdings and working capital, the partners revealed: “MFS will hold 15% of the shares, with REX and MAPL splitting equally the remaining shares. CATA will start with initial working capital of A$2 million, but we expect this to increase to A$6 million within the first 18 months” Rex is Australia’s largest independent Regional Airline, operating a fleet of 34 SAAB 340 aircraft on 1,300 flights weekly to 25 destinations from Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide. The Rex group comprises Regional Express, air freight and charter operator Pel-Air Aviation, and Dubbo based regional airline Air Link. |
Where do they think that they are going to get experienced ME instructors from?
Especially with four weeks notice. |
I think that answers the last 3 pages of this thread... I wonder if it is all 'true'....
I really hope so, it is a chance for those with less of a wallet size to get in to a seat. |
Sorry to go off track but if you guys havent seen the FAQ
http://www.regionalexpress.com.au/ca.../cadet_faq.pdf |
So can I pose a question, how the hell is anyone supposed to get into Rex as a direct entry F/O if they haven't done the cadetship then? I've heard they'll be sending enough cadets through to "meet requirements"...Does that mean a mix of direct and cadets or what??
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As I suspected, bare bones CPL and no ATPL theory.
More information on this site: http://www.raaa.com.au/pages/assocmem_civil.html and here: http://www.mangaloreairport.com.au/ The latter has bugger all. Greenfields site? Four weeks notice? Buyer beware! |
Rex has no idea.... I may as well revoke my application. Waste of my time and most of all, waste of my money.
So they want to train cadets in an isolated quiet airport with hardly any bad weather and then inject them into airports such as Sydney and Melbourne. Wow makes alot of sense. From Mangalore to Australia's largest airport where weather and dense traffic are just part of the daily struggle in Sydney not to mention Melbourne etc etc. Jeps |
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