What exactly does a check to line involve? Is it checking to see whether you remember how to do the company sops? Or is it like an IFR renewal test?

Rex Cadetship
 

Hi Jeps,

I hear what you are saying. If they go off my HSC results I don't stand a chance. Probably doesn't matter that I just got almost all distinctions in a Cert IV course I done.

outthere

It is very interesting REX's cadetship selection criteria depends on a HSC. All you kids just out of high school have to ask the question why REX isn't targeting exisiting pilots in GA?? The obvious reason is they want to use you for cheap labour. 80k is a lot of money, think carefully before accepting the devils offer.

There are plenty of us in GA still that would be ideal for their cadet program but they don't target us because they know we can't be fooled into their :mad: poor conditions. :=

Both. Everything. It is a check for you to go ON the LINE with everyone else.

You illustrated a point however. Many of these cadet applicants dont know what one is, let alone ask about & know what happens to them if they fail one.

Another few points to ask will be :
-once employed, am I employed under the current award as a full time pilot? and entitled to the SAME profit share and share entitlements?
-The price quoted for the course... is that EVERYTHING? ie do I have to put my hand in my pocket for IREX PPL,CPL and ATPL,exams etc required to be conducted by an external provider?
-IF I do not meet standard during the INITIAL course, ie fail a PPL/CPL flight test, and require some extra flying to get me to standard.... who pays for that? as under the current AWARD, every pilot gets two goes at every check including extra training at no cost to the EMPLOYEE.
-IF the course is delayed due wx or a/c unserviceabilities, does this affext my employment commencement with rex, and possibily seniority and ability to earn a wage.
-you are asking me to commit to six years return of service, which I think is fair/unfair(delete as applicable). What guarantees do you make me regarding protection of my service? ie. IF the company was to not honour the agreement FULLY, including non payment of wages/entitlements, or LATE payment of entitlements. IF the company does not continue to operate for the agreed period of time, am I still prohibited from other employment ?
-Do I have the same rights as other employees regarding base transfers/bidding etc?
- when does the 6 year bond start ? after completion of cpl and CIR? or on the first day of initial cadet training?
- what protection is afforded me in case of fuel price increases? aviation companies are VERY quick to pass on ANY fuel price increase to anyone they can. so when I suign up for the cost of training, what happens if the cost of avgas DOUBLES? do I have to pay more, or is this a fixed cost?


just a few

A lot for them to think about apache!

REX management are probably hoping for a high gullibility factor.

This thing has more legs than an octopus.

Hmmm seven or eight hundred applicants for the cadet course, I think they're gonna struggle finding guys that wanna do it ehh??

Anyone can make up a number!!!

Care to elaborate??

I highly doubt that number is anywhere near the truth as Qantas didn't even receive that many for all the various training schemes it has going at present.

Jeps

Lacma,

I rest my case RE: the gullibility factor. If those numbers are true (and I doubt it), then I hope to chr!st I never have to sit beside individuals that are so easily led.

Or are you just another mangement stooge?

Krusty please, don't shoot the messenger, I simply called the recruitment number off the website and asked a few questions, when I inquired as to how many applications they had received the friendly recruitment officer told me "Oh between seven and eight hundred". Whether it's true or not I'd have no clue, all I've done is tell you what I was told. Trust me I found it amazing also!

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A high number of interested kids dreaming about a career in aviation is one thing, someone actually committing after seeing and (hopefully from what one can read here) critically evaluating a contract, is quite another thing..

I suspect numbers of applicant will decimate once sorting out finance, signing a contract and making a commitment for a number of years start coming into play :hmm:

Sadly the truth will probably never be known, more likely than not Rex will fill available places from the ranks of the well-heeled, indifferent, or ignorant :suspect: ..and of course they will keep any numbers and details about the quality of trainees close to their corporate chest unless they want to score public points, and let's be honest, who could blame them :}

Anyway, everybody please please keep up your excellent contributions :D, this thread is becoming a superb resource for anyone wanting to clue themselves up before getting into any contract in the industry :ok:, and, reading it, I had to think more than once that, like in other industries, freelancing must be at least part of the answer :confused:

Wait til they find out they'll be doing their flying training in Cooma or Wagga.

How much rent do you have to pay to live away for....8 months:eek:

Winter mornings sitting aound for the fog to lift will be fun.:hmm:

Sounds like Rex will be taking the pick of whoever has the highest HSC results?

Fair warning school leavers: if you've got really good grades - either apply to the Qantas cadetship... or become a doctor (or something).

If they want 6-years service out of you, at 40k a year.... I truly wonder how you're going to feed yourselves. After 3 years (max), you'll be wondering what you're doing with your time...

As was previously stated, think it through before accepting the devils offer :ok:

outthere,

Yeah got ask to supply my results to....if there going solely on results i'm pretty sure i better start to look elsewhere:ugh:

Jeps

With poor school results instead of becoming a pilot you could do what Geoff did and become a CEO of a major Airline .
PS
FOG

Look-ey here, school results are being discussed again. :}

I personally think that this is an interesting topic! Here is my 2c worth.

If you have done poorly at school, it does not mean you're "dumb" - rather have not taken it seriously, or do not care.

If you want to become a pilot, don't let school results get you down. If becoming a pilot is your dream, then you're the right man or woman for the job and no school marks or comments from people can stop that!

So work at it, and if you need those HSC requirements for Qantas or whichever airline requires HSC these days, it can be done! I'm sure one can rip the HSC next time around, learning from their previous mistake(s). :ok:

togs737

Qantas requirement for a HSC has nothing to do with flying the plane. They use it to discriminate against older applicants and to reduce the amount of young people applying. I recently looked into completing a HSC. As you say it can be done but apparently it takes 1 year to complete as a mature age student. Your profile says you are 18 years old. Easy to do at your age but ask any pilot who is in their late 20s or 30s having to support themselves and maybe a family. It is a challenge unless you are loaded with money to take time off which I doubt on GA wages.

I think Qantas should exempt pilots who are over 25 years of age from the HSC requirement if they can prove they have significant flying experience or a university degree.

I still can't understand how Qantas can view a university degree as less than a HSC? Can anyone explain this one?

huh?? It's either the HSC or a Uni degree. This is from their min requirements section of their employment website.

I stand corrected training wheels. Qantas has lowered the criteria. Really no excuses now for any pilot wanting to apply for Qantas.

Reading the Qantas program for cadets and direct entry pilots you would have to be crazy to accept a gig with REX

Without a HSC how did you get in to uni?

Mature aged or through TAFE I'd think...:ugh: