Bravo again.

Department of Defence, (not the ADF bits) is THE MOST dysfunctional organisation this county heralds (no bets on second). I cringe at any association with management from THAT organisation. The sweeping statement label is justified considering the risk.

I do, however, know of an ex senior RAAF ATC manager, that was not a controller, but had the sort of head talked about by a couple of people above and without the same cloth issues. He'd be in "the best' category without the cost of Kelly but similar capabiity.

Are you referring to the current DCAF (who one upon a time was OC41WG, maybe even its first OC after its rebirth)? If so, surely you jest.

The last senior blue suiter that gave a toss about the staff was the Zimbabwean (or was he Seth Effrican?) a decade ago.

NO definiteley not current DCAF.

The person to which I refer to actually understood and supported ATC and had similar personality and intellectual traits as Kelly.

Easily capable of CEO or Manager ATC. Would certainly be a refreshing change for us.

And Speaking of ASA
 

New Board Member:

http://www.ministers.dotars.gov.au/m...134MV_2007.htm

Can't think of anyone above SQNLDR that met/meets that description (and even amongst the 2.5 bar fraternity they were/are not easily found). The fundamental aim of a RAAF ATC officer once he ditches his ericophone/headset (or gets scared of the said communication equipment) is simply to get promoted (climb the greasy pole),collect rank slides, pick up junkets overseas (preferably with tax free dollars). IMHFO, you infer that this person was not a controller but supported and understood (empathy?) ATC staff, if so, please take him/her to the Alan Woods building poste haste!

If Avalon (or any other aerodrome) gets a privatised tower, the next CEO might be the last. May be a case of when, not if.

Come now,

Does it matter a rats ar$e who the new CEO is?

You all breathlessly announce a possible new CEO as if they are the messiah :ugh:

They are all the same, does anything really change? They are there for 3 years max and you are there for 30. Have any of you seen anybody (past CEOs) who stood out as a leader? Thought so!

Dream on boys and girls

Loud and Clear
 

En-rooter I agree with your sentiments fully; but, Im sure you will agree, the current CEO has seen (ATC particularly) morale plummet and really stupid ideas propagate unabated; any change IMHO will be a good change. Doesn't mean it will get better; but with the incumbent it will only get worse.

A (normally) good source was rabbiting on about some bloke called Gumley? Are there any legs to that one?

Maybe we could get Bill Pollard back. He left ATC to run itself and concentrated on his golf game.

But again bravo FlightFocus, you are absolutely correct.:D The CEO does drive the organisation. Just look at what TFN has done to us.:hmm:

Does it matter a rats ar$e who the new CEO is?
 

en-rooter yes it does and there are good people out there who will not cost an arm or a leg.

There have been good senior execs in Airservices in the deepest past but mad-energy from a certain quarter has had equally disastrous effect upon this organisation as it has upon our system. That brought along persons who could not see past the tatoo on their left-one that read "Commerce" and on the other one - "at all costs".

The problem is, as it always has been, a matter of self-propagation. A mediocre Board or political element will always choose someone of their like. Gumley is from DMO, which is about as deep in the mire of incompetence and beauracratic porridge as anywhere else in the Department of Defence.

As difficult as it is to admit it - I agree with your sense of pessimism.

I had a dream!

Buck Brooksbank was better, he had a deadly "leather wedge".

Hot off the press!!!

Look for a significant announcement re AsA CEO's future before the end of this coming week!!

GM ATC will make follow up announcement.

Remember, you heard it first on PrPruNe!!

:} ..... comon ... spil yer guts :E

I can't stand it, the whiskey on ice has just sailed down.:ok:

Any chance of clearing the decks lets start again, goodness I'll have to invent a new user name, my restructure initiated depression may yet subside.

Oh the humanity.

Quote:

"GM ATC will make follow up announcement. "

I understand the weather on the East Island is very pleasant. Bye!

But we are probably in for a re-structure of the re-structure we had to have.

So whats the latest well concerned?

Would be interested to hear what's happening with the procedure design section - if anyone knows..... I have a third party interest

With the annual "Waypoint" industry brief in canberra last week (31 August 2007) we learned of the "National Operations Centre" being established in Canberra.

That WILL be good??? Given that Melbourne and Brisbane are where our ATC Centres are located, it is hard to imagine how that will work. Perhaps the GM ATC will do it.

I seem to recall that it was in fact the current GM ATC who (only a couple of years ago) spent a long time doing a report that concluded that the Sydney, Perth and Adelaide Terminal Control Units would be closed and re-located to the Melbourne Centre.

That didn't happen. Is it part of the new plan? What will be the next idea?

:ugh:

All,

Apologies re lack of announcement by CEO AsA - apparently 'encouraged' by a certain party [officed in a very central Canberra location] to hold off on any precipitous announcement prior to next month's election.

VP,

National Operations Centre is a euphamism for 'strike break headquarters'. It is being designed to allow ATC feed data [radar, comms etc] to be funneled into Canberra, to allow management to run stop-work or strike breaking manouevres. Forget what else you may have been told.

AWA's ... ALM co-ord ratings .... a so-called NOC at the Alan Wood's Building that none of the coalface staff hear about before anyone else!
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WC,
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If your mail on the new CEO is even close (DoD), then the pieces fit nicely!
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Were it not that Corrigan has other issues on his plate, I'd be betting money he were in the 3 peice suit ring somewhere as well!
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Wonder what Martin Ferg's thoughts are .... does he know of or condone this stuff? :hmm: