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mustafagander 27th Jul 2007 10:58

I, too, heard that the cargo door w/l illuminated just after t/o and asked the same question. A few of us were in the sim coffee room and the consensus was that if we looked at the crew list we would not need to ask the question. How hard is it to get from the circuit at YMML to the circuit at YMAV, and how long would it take? Not too difficult for the average line crew I venture to say!!

Taildragger67 27th Jul 2007 11:02

Could familiarity and possibly better emergency facilities at YMML have been a factor in the decision?

Also was the acft on a test or RPT flight? (sorry if I've missed something in a previous post about that) If the latter then I'd suggest better SLF handling facilities at YMML.

SUB 27th Jul 2007 14:41

EBX
 
The A/C was on a ferry flt after getting a temp repair at MEL. The A/C flew to AVV unpressurized , Do you think the airflow would set up a lower pressure on the neg press door and cause the door to open inward and hence the warning light to come on ??

blueloo 27th Jul 2007 15:06

Is anyone familiar with the door locking mechanism, or the door unlock sensor ?

Can the doors fail open these days after previous accidents and how reliable is the sensor?

pilotdude09 27th Jul 2007 16:59

Arent the 743 doors the internal ones that cant open mid air?

Maybe im way off?

Going Boeing 27th Jul 2007 17:03

The Forward and Aft main cargo doors are not "plug" type doors - every other door is. The forward door did get a hole in it from the incident with the loader - maybe that caused some damage to the door indication.

domo 28th Jul 2007 00:12


Is anyone familiar with the door locking mechanism, or the door unlock sensor ?

Can the doors fail open these days after previous accidents and how reliable is the sensor?
I heard from a type rated lame that it was modified after the united accident
when the main latching handle is closed electrical power is removed from the door opening system.this was not the case befour

inthefluffystuff 28th Jul 2007 09:49

At Avalon H1 being fixed now.

Going Boeing 30th Jul 2007 09:35

ITFS, can you let us know when it returns to service. Thanks

I thought that EBU was being "kept out of sight" in H1. Is it back out in the open? GB

StallBoy 7th Jul 2008 01:03

Just returned from Los Angeles on VH-EBX. Held up in LA for two hours by Hydraulic problem then thirty minutes by low pressure warning light on front landing gear. :uhoh::uhoh:Flight was supposed to end in Melbourne via Auckland but ran out of fuel and landed in Fiji. :ugh::}Flight onto Auckland held up for eight hours by Hydraulic leak in right wing. :\:\Plane took off for Auckland at 8.30pm two hours late with recuring Hydraulic problem in right wing. :\:\:\Also noticed second outboard pod on right wing missing, just wondering if QANTAS is expirementing with removing unnessary airframe parts to lighten the plane and get longer range.:D:D

18-Wheeler 7th Jul 2008 01:25


Also noticed second outboard pod on right wing missing, just wondering if QANTAS is expirementing with removing unnessary airframe parts to lighten the plane and get longer range.
Yes, it costs less to run a three-engine airliner than a four-engined one.

Let me guess, you're not a pilot?

StallBoy 7th Jul 2008 03:16

No I am not a pilot but do on the rare occassion have to fly QANTAS out of nessity when I cannot fly on a five star airline.:bored: I cannot think of another airline who would fill up a twenty-two year old 747-300 and expect it to cross the Pacific with so many known problems. :mad:As one of the hostesses told me she hated flying on this aircraft as it was always breaking down.:\:\ I know Smithy was able to do it in a Focker monoplane and was wondering if QANTAS was thinking of getting the "Southern Cross" out of it's glass case from Brisbane airport and pressing it back into service.:ok: How many wings does a plane need to be able to FLY??????:ugh::ugh::ugh:

equal 7th Jul 2008 05:10


No I am not a pilot but do on the rare occassion have to fly QANTAS out of nessity when I cannot fly on a five star airline.:bored: I cannot think of another airline who would fill up a twenty-two year old 747-300 and expect it to cross the Pacific with so many known problems. :mad:As one of the hostesses told me she hated flying on this aircraft as it was always breaking down.:\:\ I know Smithy was able to do it in a Focker monoplane and was wondering if QANTAS was thinking of getting the "Southern Cross" out of it's glass case from Brisbane airport and pressing it back into service.:ok: How many wings does a plane need to be able to FLY??????:ugh::ugh::ugh:
what the ****

Buster Hyman 7th Jul 2008 05:12


the hostesses told me she hated flying on this aircraft as it was always breaking down
Poor tradesmen always blame their tools...


I cannot think of another airline who would fill up a twenty-two year old 747-300 and expect it to cross the Pacific with so many known problems.
You've never flown Continental or United then...:rolleyes:

Skystar320 7th Jul 2008 05:28

why a Whinger - you sound like lowerlobe

Reeltime 7th Jul 2008 05:46

Stallboy your questions would be better directed to Geoff Dixon, he's the guy who decides what aircraft QF operate. He's also decides the same thing for JQ.

Two airlines, one CEO...one airline has only brand new aircraft...the other 20 year old classics, MEL ridden 767's and 400's that are going to be around for a long while yet.

See a trend here? :ugh:

International Trader 7th Jul 2008 07:02

Amazed that QF has such old aircraft!

max autobrakes 8th Jul 2008 22:10

James,
only if they keep letting management types fly them!:}


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