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prunezeuss 22nd Jun 2007 01:38

Magic Circle Club......
 
I believe it works like this.....a ride there for a ride back

lowerlobe 22nd Jun 2007 01:46

Would that ride be up in the queens castle on the fourth floor?

H_Girl 25th Jun 2007 06:18

CSS positions
 
Does any one know if the new CSS's have been told if they have the job yet?

lowerlobe 25th Jun 2007 09:47

They probably are going to try and make the appointment...sorry the selection process look fair and reasonable.

mrpaxing 27th Jun 2007 03:12

CSS appointments
 
the girls/ guys who have been successful in getting the postion been told to keep their traps shut until the end of the training.:E

DEFCON4 27th Jun 2007 06:06

Yeah Baby!
 
We wouldnt want any honesty or transparency would we?
The truth will always out...QCC leaks like a sieve

lowerlobe 27th Jun 2007 06:25

Your right DEFCON4 the clowns in the office could not organise a chook raffle.

However,the real issue here is WHY do they want the appointees to keep mum about the process?

If there were no irregularities in the appointee ....sorry I mean the promotional process then there would not be any need for secrets.

As it stands the office is a mix of Fawlty Towers,Hogan's Heroes and the Benny Hill show.

If this wasn't real life it would be funny....

ps Has anyone else noticed how little we hear from LG these days?

speedbirdhouse 27th Jun 2007 06:26

Why all the secrecy .....?
 
Surely QF management [cough] are proud of their new managers and would want the kudos for selecting such excellence ???

Wouldn't they?

mach2male 28th Jun 2007 03:57

Who Wants A Promotion?
 
Only those who are relatively junior would be interested in a promotion.
There is no benefit in becoming a CSM.
You get no support whatsoever from management{sic}.
But you WILL get a phone call in your room while you are asleep to explain the 60 sec delay in departure from your last port..
The fall from "chosen one" to "shafted one" will be swift.
Most of thes poor devils already have little resect or credibility due to the promotional process and its lack of transparency.
The CSM position is not the position it once was.
You are now nothing more than a clerk/punching bag/flight attendant.
The flight deck are going to receive a lot more phone calls from these guys because the newbies are poorly trained and indecisive.
They have been set up to fail.

DEFCON4 28th Jun 2007 04:11

The Next few Years.
 
QF is on the brink of some enormous growth over the next few years.
The opportunity for promotion will be significant.
Unfortunately there has been no people developement for years.
The quality of candidate for both onboard mangement positions will accordingly be very poor.
Twelve months as a CSS and you are a contender for promotion to the red tie/scarf.
Time for team flying methinks...pick a half dozen mates and fly together

lowerlobe 28th Jun 2007 05:40

OR.....

If you did not take VR this time,the rumor is of another package before the end of the year.

mrpaxing 28th Jun 2007 07:39

agree
 
the package will be tied to the EBA. since QF had another profit upgrade i wonder how much longer they carry on about how difficult times are and how expensive crews are. dont believe all the BS.:ugh:

lowerlobe 28th Jun 2007 08:56

........"dont believe all the BS"

After 1981 I never have.....

DEFCON4 30th Jun 2007 03:57

Secrecy in Promotion Protocol
 
A barrister once told me that "secrecy was the shroud of incompetence"
Most appropriate to QF management

lowerlobe 30th Jun 2007 04:19

There has just been an excellent 2 part program on the 6 day war between Israel and most of it's neighbours.

If you look at how the Arabs managed the conflict and the way the Israeli's did it gives you some idea of secrecy.

The Israeli intelligence always has a cloak of secrecy but then so did the Arabs.

The difference though was that the Israeli's knew what they were doing.As they say it if wasn't for the crew doing the job and fixing the problems up the track the company would have gone bust years ago.If we did the job the way the office wanted it .......nothing would work.

I noticed the other day that VB was advertising for someone to run their cabin crew department.Maybe one of us should balance the equation seeing that an ex hostie from VB is running us....

radiation junkie 30th Jun 2007 14:29

What! And make VB crew as disengaged as Qantas crew. Would not wish that on anyone !!

outandabout 1st Jul 2007 10:40

LH Promotions
 
It is really amazing how a VB flight attendant can now be the Manager of QF Longhaul, not only for SYD but for AKL, BKG etc with what qualification? I would like to know how to get that job. What qualification has a VB flight attendant got above a QF flight attendant?

prunezeuss 1st Jul 2007 13:10

L'Etranger
 
Essentially this individual is where she is for two reasons:
1.She is an outsider. Albeit with no qualifications
2.She is there by default.The individual who was originally chosen was unable to accept the position for personal reasons.
The original choice would have performed infinitely better.
The incumbent will not be in this position by the middle of 2008.
By the middle or end of 2008 there will yet an other reshuffle of QF CC management.
They are not performing
Customer surveys indicate that there is a major problem with QF service(Choice is but one)
LG is on thin ice.
When Dixon leaves in 2009 the domino effect will be initiated company wide.
The deck chairs on the Titanic will be reorganized but you will have less ice in your glass.

lowerlobe 1st Jul 2007 23:49

The company has a history of filling vacancies with candidates without qualifications or ability.

They do this for a number of reasons..

1:They do not want anyone with imagination or ability
2:They want someone who is a 'YES' person and will rubber stamp orders from above
3:They do not want to pay the required or expected salary for someone with a track record and qualifications.

ST is an ex hostie
Winnie was an ex hostie etc.......

sydney s/h 2nd Jul 2007 06:08

Hey Lowerlobe,
now 30 June has been and gone are you now out of the flying kangaroo?


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