"Currently there is no exemption for crew. And I can't see why one would be introduced.

Along with restrictions on LAGs there will also be the introduction of random frisk searches. No one seems to have mentioned this and I would have thought that this would be more intrusive than having to show what sort of toothpaste you use."

Something about multiple overnights and multiple trans-Tasman crossings with an un checked-in overnight bag. A weeks worth of toiletries etc won't fit in a one litre bag.
Random frisk searches - knock yourself out. It's not a massive inconvenience. Pissing around with checked in luggage and so Customs clearance (in and outbound) when you are only in transit and have a 50 min turnaround, as opposed to hand luggage only, equals major hassle.
If there was a reliable crew baggage aircraft to aircraft transfer system, then it wouldn't be a problem, but too many times have I experienced my overnight bag going somewhere different to me. Record time missing was 6 weeks. Jeeze, the toss-up between having a beer in the pub at the end of the day in my uniform and infringing company procedure, and being the laughing stock in the hotel bathrobe....decisions decisions!

It's our patriotic duty to meekly submit to the 'security' checking, because it reduces unemployment and improves the GNP.

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:uhoh: As An ATC I hope they dont take my pen off me - where am I going write down all those level requests?

You guys can only wipe out one acft load - If I was really good(or bad) I could do 2 or 3 at a time.....I can see clear plastic bags being introduced to get into the tower or centre :=

TT

OK I can understand the need for security checks and frankly they don't worry me. What does worry me is the clear disregard by check-in people and the final departure lounge staff, AND the flight attendants at the front door when it comes to stopping the huge carry-on bags that are hauled into the cabin.
One of the grim aspects of the recent Garuda 737 overun accident was the report by survivors of the overhead lockers bursting open and bags falling on to passengers heads. This is a common event in accidents such as these. Most of the time these are mini-suitcases weighing a great deal more than the six kilo limit and certainly enough to stun the victim if not knock him unconscious. Yet, we see the ridiculous situation every day where cabin staff insist on dimming cabin lights (no problem with blindingly bright focussed overhead reading lights) and insisting on window blinds being left up for take off and landing (in case of fire?) - yet ignoring the far greater danger of suitcases and other heavy bags being stuffed into overhead lockers. And yet pilots are fed reams of bulldust about "Threat and Error management!! Where are our priorities? Certainly not in cabin safety that's for sure...

Well I am sorry for the delay in my reply but I have just been informed of the new requirements in regard to Operating Aircrew. As I expected, Australia has bucked the norm and become Anal about these new requirements. Quote

"Many ICAO member countries including the US, Canada, Germany, Japan, Hong Kong, India, Philippines, Korea and Taiwan have introduced these recommended measures for passengers. These countries, however, have provided an exemption for operating crew who are in uniform."

I have no comment.... all I can say is pathetic, pathetic , pathetic, we have raced to the bottom in conditions, and raced to the top in stupidity.

Just vote out these idiots please, if only to have a change???

The people introducing these laws have gone completely mad. I read this article some weeks ago regarding the difficulty of making one of these so called 'binary liquid explosives' that theses security measures are supposed to prevent.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08...t_terror_labs/
So we are all being duped by politicians who have been watching too many Hollywood movies!

CC,....if you were an FFDO, then you wouldnt have to go through this nonsense.....life is Goooooooooooooood!!!!! PB

Centaurus

Mate I could not agree more.One of our guys was weighing in cabin bags that looked like they would be over the limit during boarding.He used one of those gadgets you use to weight fish and was handing bags to ground staff that were to heavy.

The result was he got hauled over the coals by the office because some frequent whinger put a dob in.They never argued that the bags were over weight but it was not company procedure.

safety again losses out to marketing and the almighty dollar

Angle of Attack wrote ..."Just vote out these idiots please, if only to have a change???"

??? yep. The other idiots support it. So don't expect any change.

Shaving,Teeth Cleaning,Deodorant etc.
 

Arent all these amenities available in those in those pax packs.
Oh no, just thought, using those would be stealing ....bugger!

I'm dragging this up again mainly for lowerlobe's interest.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/6558569.stm
BBC:
"And Mr Benn, a candidate for Labour's deputy leadership, confirmed that UK officials would stop using the term.
The White House coined the phrase after the attacks of 11 September 2001.
Mr Benn said: "In the UK, we do not use the phrase 'war on terror' because we can't win by military means alone.
"And because this isn't us against one organised enemy with a clear identity and a coherent set of objectives."
The 'War on Terror" is a simplistic notion designed to mould opinion. The liquid bomb plot is a part of this political campaign.

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