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skippersinsider 25th Nov 2007 15:37

For obvious reasons I am not able to comment directly on the source of this information.

There are crew who have recently been given a start date and they will be on the old AWA because they have opted to sign it (it is Skippers after all) and the AWA will be changed after that for new hires. The new AWA will be a little more realistic, but not finalised! So no exact details at this point.

Skippers are on a very regular basis x-hiring DH8's and Emb-120's from Network, Maroomba, NJS and the odd F50 from XR due to the crew shortage! Thursday morning we had 4 x-hires! Lake Johnston is almost totally served by x-hires from NJS and Maroomba.

There are plenty of cadet's in the system, but due to experience they are unable to make the step to command. There is not a flow of experienced drivers to take that step. The current AWA is keeping most away. Nor is it retaining experienced staff.

Company morale is through the floor with plenty of bitching, moaning, whinging and just general complaining. Constant daydreaming of better things! Just look at the last skippers ball, barely anybody went!


JTpilot I hope this answers your comment!

TAC inop. 27th Nov 2007 13:30

You guys are so funny....just go to the Emirates forum...or Cathay...or anywhere else for that matter and you tell me how it really is....
Stop bitching.

Continental-520 28th Nov 2007 12:48

TAC inop?
 
Huh?

Whaddya mean, cobber?

Sorry if I'm missing something really obvious....


520

Skystar320 28th Nov 2007 23:48


You guys are so funny....just go to the Emirates forum...or Cathay...or anywhere else for that matter and you tell me how it really is....
Stop bitching.
Why did you bump the post?

captwawa 29th Nov 2007 00:06

520

you are missing something - maybe you need to read his post again slowly maybe even slower than before

you shouldn't have had the labotomy

o sorry i will speak in simple words - no more brain chop ok?

Continental-520 29th Nov 2007 12:39

Aha!
 
Eureka!
Is that what it is??

Thanks for the tip - cause now I know what he's talking about. It's a good thing there are people like you that are smarter than me in this world to point these things out, captwawa! Now I can sleep. Phew!


520.

Shed Dog Tosser 30th Nov 2007 22:53

Mr Insider,

From friends that work there, apparently;

It is still turd sandwiches all round on the AWA front. Company still hell bent on not negotiating / discussing an amicable resolve, massive staff shortage still apparent.

Many other organisations aircraft spending more time on the Skippers apron than their own.

More Pilots off to other organisation, especially Captains, VB, Cathay, Dragon, NJS, Skywest recruiting again in a couple of weeks more to probably go then, 5 on the roll with QF.

The icing on the cake, another lot of Dash 8's on the way and still a staff shortage.

Good luck.

Icarus2001 1st Dec 2007 01:02

So what about the rumour that a senior manager will be making his swan song soon?

Going Boeing 1st Dec 2007 01:23

Qantas understands the seriousness of the pilot shortage and has now effectively elimated the "hold file". Instead, any pilot that passes the recruiting process is sent a letter offering employment with the start date TBA. This is aimed at stopping the loss to other carriers of pilots who have been waiting on the hold file. Employment and training of recruits continues at maximum capacity to allow promotion of S/O's and F/O's in preparation for new aircraft arriving.

Pilots who are unhappy at airlines like Skippers have real alternatives for career progression.

bushy 1st Dec 2007 01:36

Surplus
 
The existence of a "hold file" indicates a surplus of known suitable pilots. If that has been eliminated then that is a return to normality. Not a shortage.

myshoutcaptain 1st Dec 2007 06:32

lose physics and they'd have even more

Going Boeing 1st Dec 2007 22:47


lose physics and they'd have even more
The Physics requirement was dropped about six months ago.

myshoutcaptain 2nd Dec 2007 09:43

Boeing - my bad. I meant Maths .... :ugh:

Diver Dan 5th Dec 2007 04:46

Competitive Market
 
May get harder now for Skippers with Surveillance Australia now offering Dash 8 Captains 100K + CPI + 2% increase per year retention + overtime + superannuation.

Interesting times.

Shed Dog Tosser 5th Dec 2007 07:23

Not to mention that apparently many of their Pilots have received letters informing them that their AWA's have not passed the fairness test, interesting times.

bazza stub 10th Dec 2007 09:54

Pay rises for Braz and Dash F/O's??? Anyone know if it's true? :ok:

skippersinsider 10th Dec 2007 11:54

Lots of fines coming!

Crew who signed the AWA as new crew, that AWA will stand!

Old crew, You are in the money! Few court cases coming up!

laser650 10th Dec 2007 12:45

Skip insider,

This is the first I here of any court case. Are any unions involoved? :hmm:

Is this info made public anywhere?

Laser

BR715 11th Dec 2007 10:35

Those fines will be the least of their worries when they put one through a fence or in the dirt!!!!

justvisual 15th Dec 2007 02:08

GM Exodus
 
Whats the latest on the GM, heard he is part of the exodus as well?


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