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kiwipilot02 5th Nov 2006 06:37

Heard Wellington- Invercargill direct with the Dash is on the radar.

Cloud Cutter 5th Nov 2006 18:56

Does anyone know if they're looking at TRG-CHC after Origin paved the way?

mattyj 5th Nov 2006 20:01

What about the new AirNSN base at Hamilton? Has that been confirmed yet?

flyby_kiwi 5th Nov 2006 20:17

The Airnsn base at hamilton has been happening for years and years. Cant confirm its actually going ahead any time soon tho.

Yes TG - CH is apparently starting in the not too distant future (I think about 6 months is what i was told)

always inverted 8th Nov 2006 02:33

Let us just remember that Eagle is a stepping stone in the majority of cases, sure they work hard and stand in the rain sometimes, but remember, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
Unless I'm mistaken, the comments regarding the TG base are slightly incorrect, the aircraft will be going to HN at this stage and the company will be working with the guys there during the period between now and the closure to work out where the crew will go, it's not just "it's closed, you go here..." unless I'm mistaken...
With 4 or 5 so called m/e ifr, high time guys not getting through the training earlier in the year, is it really a wonder that the company wants to eliminate the d@#k heads getting through the interview then costing lots of money to eventually fail the check, good on them, comming up with an interview system that works must be quite hard and good on them for trying something else.
Air NSN have historicly required time in an ATO before going for an interview, and around 1500 hrs of probably hard done time, therefore sort-of reducing the chance of green around the edges getting through- as ga is sort of self sifting.
Once people stop bitching and moaning about this and that and remember that they have a job in an a/c with the koru on the tail, allbeit a 1900 (which is actually quite a fun plane to fly) and also what it was like in ga for the majority of people- instructing does not count the better it will be.
Maybe a bold call but the ones that moan the loudest seem to be those that think that Eagle should be privelaged to have them work for them or those that have been told no thanks. But at the end of the day, people will always moan, it wont matter how much money they get or how much time off they get.:= := :=


(standing by for a whipping)

Hanz Blix 9th Nov 2006 03:29

No whipping!
 
Thanks for clarifing whats going on with the TG base:ok: Hopefully it works out for all the guys there and they don't get based in palmy or something:eek:

HB

sexy time 9th Nov 2006 07:56

Alas some of us werent either worthy of getting the call for the rigourous selection process...

haughtney1 9th Nov 2006 08:22


Once people stop bitching and moaning about this and that and remember that they have a job in an a/c with the koru on the tail, allbeit a 1900
Give your brain a chance mate :hmm: 4 days for a job on a 1900????????????????? ....that my friend is what is called a piss-take.

:hmm: No wonder the mythical eagle warrior STILL exists.....(I saw one today:yuk: )

always inverted 9th Nov 2006 16:03

My brain gets plenty of chances thanks, but I'm not saying that I think that it is a good thing to have a 4 session interview but a job is a job, if you dont like the process or the company then dont apply, I dont know if I would get through the current interview...but hey thats all I'm saying, trying to be impartial.

cowpatz 9th Nov 2006 19:11

Enlightenment
 
Anyone care to shed a litttle light on what is done over those 4 days? Seems excessive and signs of an unrestrained HR division.

haughtney1 10th Nov 2006 07:49

Four days for an assessment is a joke...plain and simple

I know that I would struggle to reach the lofty heights of an Eagle F/O if I had to go through a process thaaaaaaaaaat long:sad: (even though I've got BE200 & 350 time on my logbook)

Air NSN will hopefully change at some point.........but probably not soon:=

propaganda 10th Nov 2006 19:03


Originally Posted by haughtney1 (Post 2956014)
Four days for an assessment is a joke...plain and simple
I know that I would struggle to reach the lofty heights of an Eagle F/O if I had to go through a process thaaaaaaaaaat long:sad: (even though I've got BE200 & 350 time on my logbook)
Air NSN will hopefully change at some point.........but probably not soon:=

Couldn't agree more......a short chat with the Chief Pilot...no HR physio crap,
A quick wizz round in the Sim....tried and tested ...should take 2 hrs max :ok:

Thump & Go 10th Nov 2006 19:11

Master Caution - the Egos are landing........

Hanz Blix 11th Nov 2006 00:10

Thats funny because I thought Air NSN had recently gone to a 2 day interview?! (not 2 hours) However if I am wrong accept my humble appologises.:\

HB

nike 11th Nov 2006 05:06

with you thump.

cyco 11th Nov 2006 07:58

Lets look on the bright side
 
With all the slow down in our beloved industry and the loss of jobs suffered by our mates of late, its a shame we have lost sight of the positives that the small amount of expansion being realised by Air Nelson and Eagle brings.

New planes mean new jobs and a 4 day interview can only mean one thing, that someone is interviewing, which can only mean that yet another lucky soul is soon to join this great fraternaty of ours.:D

propaganda 11th Nov 2006 19:05

I've never heard of a turboprop regional airline...wasting so much time effort and money on selecting F/O's....there must be a reason.....was there a higher than normal failure rate previously ?, or are they involved in a new flight test programme for NASA......or is it the massive salary......or more likely a junior manager trying to justify their existance...;)

mattyj 11th Nov 2006 20:41


.....was there a higher than normal failure rate previously ?,
At the initial interview level..YES
At the check to line level...YES
At the regular renewel level..YES
At ATPL issue..YES
Even experienced captains are known to have average checkrides

I have heard from Eag drivers that the checks are difficult at times and completely unrepresentive of modern two pilot crew operations.

I reckon there are two reasons..even when you operate in that environment on a daily basis, it doesn't expose you to things like assymetric holding, missed approaches on one engine..fire drills..emergency checklists. You must have to do serious study before the checkride.
Secondly..Students can't afford to train themselves to the level previously required for an Eagle driver nowadays, and in the old days there was so little movement, only the elite ever got through with many drivers who would've dropped out once, now getting a shot.

Hanz Blix 14th Nov 2006 00:40

Surely hell isn't freezing over:}

Cloud Cutter 14th Nov 2006 04:34

I think I saw a flying pig somewhere too......

But it's really happening this time, honest. Just a few more negotiations to make, a few more snags to sort out:rolleyes:


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