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-   -   747-400 D check cancelled due to big announcment (https://www.pprune.org/australia-new-zealand-pacific/208839-747-400-d-check-cancelled-due-big-announcment.html)

wing surfer 1st Feb 2006 08:02

in reply to qf1 statement
 
in regards to this has never happened before- true it has not happened at any one base but this is the 3rd time it has happened in the last 2 years the other times there has been a super-A happening else where and then flying to Sydney and having a C-check carried out.

I am not saying there is nothing in the wind but i hear that the management staff of the 3rd for and there staff have all signed a confidentiality agreement about all documentation on the floor.

also i hear that apprentice training school has closed down or is about to close down.

Turbo 5B 1st Feb 2006 08:30

according to the plan, the d checkaircraft comes back in to the hangar for a gear change soon...5 days..with no other check in conjunction. thats a whole lot of people standing around doing f all for 5 days.It then comes back in april for its d check. Maybe.
No apprentice has been offered a job in sydney this year.

middleman 1st Feb 2006 12:52

From what I understand most of the Avionics Apprentices coming out of their time were offered Servicing @ Mascot , but no Airframe Apprentices were offered Sydney at all.

Syd eng 1st Feb 2006 21:28

Where were they offered HM mel or line stations? Or was it worse hardly any got jobs at all?

Redstone 1st Feb 2006 22:56

I know of at least one mech. fella who got Sydney (not sure if sit or sdt) some got QDS Canberra, some QDS Richmond, Bankstown..........

I think there is no intake for '06 either.

BHMvictim 2nd Feb 2006 06:53


Originally Posted by qfcainer
the choices were perth line, adelaide line, brisbane heavy. 18 are going to brisbane heavy, which was the largest taker of apprentices by quite a margin.

Really? interesting.

I'd say the reason that the apprentice training facility may shut down is because QF can obtain ready to go apprentices from Aviation Australia up here in Brisbane..... apprentices that have paid their own way! Much cheaper than Qantas paying!!! Just another Dirty cost cutting trick.

qf 1 2nd Feb 2006 07:57

that may be the case,but these apprentices are not up to speed fully and it still takes these guys and girls 4 yrs of on the job training before they are of any use

wing surfer 2nd Feb 2006 08:03

lets get this thing back on track

i have a few questions which i think need to be asked

1. if the aircraft are outsourced who here in Australia is acountable if one goes down?

I think NO one would but maybe the people that are making these choices should be thinking of the long term and not the just the short term gains. thinking of the public safety and the customers welbeing and living up to what they preach " no injuries to anyone anytime" (no only the worker but the travelling public)

I would give it about 5 years before mojours problems occure by this stage dixon would have taken the shares, the pay rises and the profit he would lleave Qantas and then all S**t would break loose No care No responsiblilty . no came back fror the investors, no come back for the Australian public (Australian law does not extend to China).

the question was asked of Keith Clark why was the check moved, quote " it was to keep the intregity on H/M sydney" what ever that means.

2. if there is a closure of heavy maint where will the servicing guys get the skill base for the engineers?

the goverment is complaining there is a lack of skilled workers here in Australia how is this going to help the skill base shortages? does this mean more workers coming in from overseas doing more Australians out of work remember the saying "pay peanuts get monkeys"

Turbo 5B 2nd Feb 2006 08:38

if you move (get rid of) the work you don't need the skills base

BHMvictim 2nd Feb 2006 09:22


Originally Posted by wing surfer
the goverment is complaining there is a lack of skilled workers here in Australia how is this going to help the skill base shortages? does this mean more workers coming in from overseas doing more Australians out of work remember the saying "pay peanuts get monkeys"

The government has been bringing in skilled workers for years! Maybe not in the aircraft industry, but certainly others! Next time you are in a taxi, ask the Indian/Middle Eastern/Mediteranean/Asian/Russian driver what job he used to do back home. I have done this now and then. It's supprising that quite a few were engineers or skilled tradespeople back in their home countries.

Howard has flooded the market with them.....I'd hazzard to guess that when we all spit the dummy over the low pay/lack of conditions that are just around the corner, these guys will jump at the chance to get back into their career!

rafterman 2nd Feb 2006 17:26

Have heard that the D check was cancelled but has been replaced by a C check on OJL instead

Syd eng 2nd Feb 2006 18:44

Is May still the date thrown around for the decision on the long term future of Heavy Maintenance Sydney?

nightshifter 3rd Feb 2006 02:41

Lots of rumours floating around the ol Red Rat factory..

Buster Hyman 3rd Feb 2006 07:42

Does this have anything to do with Qantas buying a big chunk of Air New Zealand?

Turbo 5B 3rd Feb 2006 08:09

did they...when?

Buster Hyman 3rd Feb 2006 08:16

Soon Grasshopper...soon!;)

Turbo 5B 3rd Feb 2006 09:29

if we're lucky we can do their maintenance work.

bushy 3rd Feb 2006 14:50

Maint Base
 
Will the maint base be LAX?

See travel industry review.
"L.A. Mayor announcesnew Qantas maintenance facility at LAX"

domo 3rd Feb 2006 22:48

their is talk of split 767 "A" checks in new zealand

qf 1 5th Feb 2006 20:21

it looks like Dixon will do anything to get the share price back up over $5 before his departure.because if he doesn't his time at Qantas would of been a waste of time as there would be no massive bonus at the end of it all.


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