Latest Qantas Rumours
 

1 - The QF3/4 SYD-HNL services to continue on to SFO. Good news for classic drivers!

2 - The FAAA is negotiating a "B Scale" for Australian based crew in order to maintain some sort of "industrial relevance". Involves a pay cut somewhere in the order or 30%.

How busy will the Classics be then? I spose the 6 of 'em can keep up the routes, and possibly take on SFO too now that 333s have taken over some of the former services (Ex:BNE-SIN). Will the QF3/4 flights operate the normal HNL service and then just fly on... or will there be changes to the schedule?

Why??
 

Why would you fly SYD/HNL/SFO on a "classic"when you can fly SYD/AKL/SFO on a 400.QF is short of aircraft and definitely short of ideas.If this is true it just shows what the threat of competition (SQ)will do.QF is just trying to consolidate its position in the Pacific and only because it is b eing forced to.
SFO has better connections to YVR and a host of other destinations in the US.It is a UA hub and not an AA hub like LAX,hence QF`s reluctance to fly there.
Oh,boys and girls of Longhaul CC,don`t get excited the Kiwis will be doing this route....you can bet your left ovary/testicle on that.

Why would you fly SYD/HNL/SFO on a "classic"when you can fly SYD/AKL/SFO on a 400.

Maybe QF want to get their hands on some SFO slots to utilise in the future, when the 773ERs come on-line. SQ will get Pacific rights at some stage and fragmentation will occur. Time to get back into SFO and prepare for competition/fragmentation.

Hand gun, what's the difference between flying in a 300 as against a 400? Same interior and speed I thought.

The Feel
 

The noise, the feel,the stowage space,just the grunt a 400 has.It just inspires comfort and modernity.The 300 was always a stop gap aircraft .My thoughts anyway.

Yeah and the higher cost and fuel burn of the 300 compared to the 400

The -300 "stop gap" has been stopping a pretty big gap (20 years now!).

It's a very capable aircraft - built like a brick s%^thouse - although the fuel burn is roughly 3% more than a -400. That's a lot of bucks with oil at US$56 a barrel. However, the aircraft are now all fully depreciated and are configured for 450 odd pax.

I believe they have the lowest cost per ASK on sectors of between 6 and 9 hours in the QF fleet.

Stop Gap
 

They are rubbish..... period.Yesterdays technology.Breakdown almost as often as Airbuses.QF spent way too much on the refurb. QF sends a poor piece of equipment to one of its most important markets...Japan.No wonder the approval rating in Japan is going down the dunny.The bloody brassco`s stink.

Good God. YSSY to KSFO. You can just imagine the bitching and scratching as all the old queens climb over each other to get as many as possible..... :yuk:

Should be good for a few biffos with that many mincers aboard.

Hey Handgun!

How many punters do you think would know if they were flying in a -300 or a -400 especially when they are making the booking.

Don't think it would be AO...but jetstar?? Hmmm

I'm astounded.

QANTAS, once the flag bearer in longhaul aircraft development, is still operating the Jurrassic, on pax services. I thought they were long gone to freght ops.

Most of the third world switched their pax ops to more modern aircraft yonks ago.

Yet here we are in the twentyfist century, with QANTAS "evaluating a fleet modernisation". Sh.t fellahs, third world airlines have been flying 777's 330's and 340's for nigh on ten years and you still can't make up your minds to progress, let alone define your requirements

This must surely make QANTAS a "fourth world" airline.

And they have the temerity to bleat about protection from those nasty agressive Arab's et al.

Mind boggling.

TO

I would have thought one reason to go via HNL would be the 600km longer great circle distance to SFO via AKL.

mmm...astounding.....cant be doing to badly given that its one of the few profitable airlines in the world...........


not that I am saying it doesnt need new jets, but obviously it has been planned this way for a reason.....

OK, so who are you and what have you done with the real Blueloo. That was FAR too nice a thing to say about QF management for him! :} :E :}

This thread is astounding. I don't think I've ever come across so many completely uninformed fools.

People like "fellashio". Who clearly has not seen the multi milion dollar refit on the classic, whereby punters wouldnt know whether they were in a 300 or 400.

People like TAC, who just want to use the opportunity to knock Qantas. Just unbelievable.

There's no logic here. Just knockers.

Have so too
 

I have seen the refurb numnuts and its still ****e.
Its called overcapitalising
Last time I looked we still live in a democracy where I am entitled to have an opinion.Just because we are not in agreeance doesn`t mean it has any less value.
So which other premium carrier still has 6 of these "Classics"?.Refurbed or not.

Sandy freckle... agree, the ones that usually knock are the ones who have been knocked back!

Hypocrisy of it is, is that if Qantas offered half these armchair experts jobs, would they knock em back? No!

Mr. Conrad
 

An excellent post ...truly inspired.