Gee I miss camping. :}

As far as I'm concerned unless any chargers were placed with the local authorities - then what happens on the piss, stays on the piss. The only issue is that a flight was cancelled due to individual crew members unable to commence duty. Anyone trying to degrade society any more by conjuring up sexual harassment litigious bullsh$t regarding this topic should go back to watching Desperate Housewifes.

The management response to this should be along the lines of - Your a bunch of bloody idiots. I don't want to hear it. Your stupid antics have caused the cancellation of a flight and now Dixon is up my arse (pardon the pun). You can all see now how tangibly valuable you are to this company, so please act like responsible professionals and make sure you turn up fit for duty. Bla Bla Bla don't do it again or else.

The breath testing issue should be dropped in favour of CRM training regarding each crew members responsibility for the safe conduct of a flight. ie Capt you smell like a piss trough, you cannot do this flight. What are our alternatives yada yada. But this is off topic.

LewC

We don't even know who did what to whom, so we're hardly in a position to comment on what anyone's BAC was or whether it'd be a problem 16 hours later. We don't even know if all of the protagonists were even operating on that particular flight. (There are up to what, 4 or 5 QF flights out of NRT on any given night, and slips can be anywhere from about 24 to 80 hours.)

Anyway, it's well known that consumption of sufficient gyozas protects against excessive beer consumption. Also, much as petrol enables driving, beer enables singing. As one sings, the effects of beer are depleted, much as your petrol is depleted as you drive. Therefore, with enough gyozas and karaoke you should be right as rain within about 40-45 minutes.:ok:

QF tech crew altercation...continued..
 

Apparently the thread has been censored and essentially deleted.


So continuing on, anyone have the facts yet?




Just the facts bluloo, just the facts - and without the personals!!!

The last thread took me over an hour to edit!!!

:mad:

Woomera

This is a rumour network, bonvol - check out the name if you don't believe me.
Why let a fact or two get in the way of a good story, and a few prejudices, from both sides of the camp(s).

Update
 

The Captain in question cleaned the clock of one of the CC.The CC was hospitalized with a suspected fractured cheek bone.
What I don't understand is why the Captain was stood down in NRT!Why not let him operate home and then stand him down.This way there is no inconvenience to the SLF and no cost to QF.Someone has made a blunder which compounded the problem.
Further an English speaking pax,who had to overnight in NRT because his flight was cancelled ,overheard QF crew discussing the event in one of the crew haunts.He subsequently rang QF Japan and vented his spleen(Fair Enough).
A difficult sitaution was made worse by standing the Captain down in Japan and paxing him home.Someone in QF Ops has made a big and expensive Boo Boo.
Heads will roll!!

I'll think that you'll find that it is common practice in any airline that where a crew member has been involved in any sort of incident that they are stood down. The reason being that they do not worry in flight, if they are crewing, as per the repercussions and create a safety issue. If they were not stood down and there was an incident or accident, the companies insurance may well be placed in jeapordy.

MF

Imagine the tension on the trip home! :eek: That it's already (allegedly) come to blows shows that CRM has gone out the window ..... :ugh:

so MGF...
 

sounds like we may be getting a little closer to the bottom of this... Any word on why this techie felt the need? Probably deserved, but thats beside the point, the ppruner in me wants the good oil!! :}
ahhh the truck bus... often a ride between heaven and hell! :)

Playing the devils advocate Galleyhag, what makes you think the the receiver DIDN'T deserve it....? :rolleyes:

Z Force
 

One crew member in Hospital and pax the other one home and the Captain operates.How does this compromise insurance?The QF 180 is an airbus service ..how many pilots for this sector.I still think ops made a blue!

Was it a 767 crew or a bus crew?

Twas a 767 crew ....:cool:

...:eek: ...What were they doing on an Airbus?

Uh-Oh! I hear footsteps & the familiar clinking of a padlock!

Seniority
 

Must have been a senior CC.Ive been flying 20 years and my seniority has(today)gone up by one.Ahhh every cloud has a silver lining.
Who gives a rats rissole about sexuality or CRM.The relevant questions are... Who was the smackee?...Who was the smacker?...and Why?.What will be the repercussions?The rest is irrelevant drivel!!

Cabin crew are not restricted to a single type. As for techies, there are 4 or 5 QF flights out of NRT on any given night. No-one ever said the Captain involved was operating the 180. Just one of the many conclusions which have been jumped to in the course of this discussion. And since the protagonists may not have ever been on the same crew, can we stop wittering on about CRM now?

Media Reports
 

The media reports indicate precisely that it was the QF 180(Mel Service)which was cancelled and CIS info indicates a 767 operating on this sector.

The captain involved was NOT the guy originally scheduled for the QF180. So all you bidbook detectives, keep looking..

The word I got was that the gayness of any of the combatants had nothing to do with it.. I know more about it but it's probably better not to fan any more flames.

COBorg
 

Mate, you are a bloody tease.Spill the beans and clear the air.
Or at least send me a PM.I promise I won't tell.

Let's just say that there was "history" on the trip, it was to do with a close member of the captains family, and with a skinful I may have done the same... No excuse of course but I understand the feelings involved.

There was only one punch thrown and it resulted in a cut, and no more.

Maintaining discipline on a ship is of vital importance...a good Captain knows that!

If a Flight Attendant needs a smack in the chops... then, so it should be!

If it happens to be a Senior Flight Attendant, then this is even better to establish discipline on the ship!

Let's face it, some of those tarts need to be reminded who the boss is!! :*