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TOPC 12th Jan 2005 09:35

National Jet or Jetstar ?
 
Been away for a while,
Who won the 717 tender for the Bae146 routes.?
What will happen to the old leased 146s ?
How many 146s are there? How many 717s are there?
Thanks,much appreciated...........

amos2 12th Jan 2005 10:25

So, where and how far away have you been? Lost in the jungle perhaps? :confused:

TOPC 12th Jan 2005 10:43

No just on hols.So who won ?

Mr Maverick 12th Jan 2005 12:18

  • Not know yet - judges still judging. Expect answer by month's end.
  • Old leased 146s will be released and offered for work. Hallo Chris, would you like a regional service? If we start tomorrow will that be soon enough?
  • a) 20 plus an RJ. b) 8 now, another 6 in 18 months.

Capn Bloggs 12th Jan 2005 13:38

C'Mon 3rd floor, I'm getting itchy feet!! Who's it going to be??!!:{ :ugh: :sad: :cool:

ditzyboy 14th Jan 2005 10:25

We were told 19 January.

Apparently 717 steps are being moved from MEL to PER next week... I dunno what, if anything, that means.

The Enema Bandit 14th Jan 2005 11:07

So what will they do for steps in Melbourne?

Howard Hughes 14th Jan 2005 20:47


So what will they do for steps in Melbourne?
Use the aerobridges as usual!!

Cheers, HH.

:ok:

Practise 15th Jan 2005 00:43

Hi all,

Word from someone inside NJS say the decision was supposed to have been made yesterday!!!

Anyone heard???? NJS or Jet*???

AN CSO 15th Jan 2005 01:05

I believe those who have been interviewed by NJS recently have been told the 717's are heading to NJS.

Practise 15th Jan 2005 01:07

Hi all,

Word from someone inside NJS say the decision was supposed to have been made yesterday!!!

Anyone heard???? NJS or Jet*???

F/O Bloggs 15th Jan 2005 01:36

As this is a rumour net work, I heard yesterday from one of the flight attendants (NJS) that she had been told congratulations from a Qantas mainline Flight Attendant on NJS getting the gig. Apparently the Qantas F/A read it somewhere as well.

;)

"ATTITUDE BLOGGS!"

commander adama 15th Jan 2005 01:59


As this is a rumour net work, I heard yesterday from one of the flight attendants (NJS) that she had been told congratulations from a Qantas mainline Flight Attendant on NJS getting the gig. Apparently the Qantas F/A read it somewhere as well.
Are you for real. LMFAO

No one has any idea who has got it. No one!

THough obviously it is heavily in Jetstars favour

Pimp Daddy 15th Jan 2005 05:40

Latest word appears to be the decision has been delayed for a month.

chow babe 15th Jan 2005 08:12

Signed yesterday jetstar wins!! Cairns , darwin in march perth october

BAE146 15th Jan 2005 08:38

.............B.S .........chow........decision has been delayed while NJS decide if they are going to get a backlash from their pilots re: paying for endorsements on the 717............rumour has it they are going to tell Cobham to jamn it ~! ...............keep tuned!

Capn Bloggs 15th Jan 2005 10:22


NJS decide if they are going to get a backlash from their pilots
I suppose the best thing would be to decide that they won't get a backlash...
BAe, what are you on, and can I have some?

A mate who knows a mate in Qantas close to the 3rd floor told me that the flying sperm is about to inseminate the porn star...

Dog One 16th Jan 2005 07:53

Understand NJ have been recruiting over the last few months for 146 positions. Is this to allow the 146 crews to do the 717 training?

BAE146 16th Jan 2005 09:18

..............JetStar are recruiting BIG TIME!.................they are so desperate, they are now re-assessing applicants that were previously knocked back and giving them slots ! If NJS pilots opt to stay on the 146 instead of coffing up for a 717 conversion the sh!t will hit the fan for NJS....................they will of course say "no 717 rating - no job"..................to which the pilots will say "stiff!" and go out and apply to JetStar direct!

NJS would be wise to tread very carefully on their re-tender for this contract........you're not dealing with mining companies here boys !!!!!!

Capn Bloggs 16th Jan 2005 11:28

Yep, I definitely want some of whatever you're on, BAe.

MIss Behaviour 16th Jan 2005 23:04

Dog One

There is a BAe 146 ground school kicking off today in AD.

RENURPP 17th Jan 2005 01:15

I was told by a certain person (regular on this forum) that Jetstar had 2 x A320's parked up against a fence as they were as yet unable to crew them.

Is this rumour True or False?

Rogeramjet181 17th Jan 2005 11:09

For what little it may be worth and my source is nothing more than an un substantiated rumour, QF aims to keep its profits in house and thereby let Jet* do its thing with the boe-ing.

:cool:

SeaEagle 18th Jan 2005 04:46

:confused:

The decision was apparently made today. Anyone actually know what it was?

Capn Bloggs 18th Jan 2005 12:49

Apparently I haven't been told, and since SWMBO is going to SMS me immediately it is, apparently it wasn't made today!
So, Sea Eagle, apparently you'll be the second to know after me!:D

TOPC 19th Jan 2005 01:20

Can anyone confirm that Jetstar will keep the 717s.
If this is the case,what does this now mean to National Jet .

hws__ils 19th Jan 2005 01:24

Just read on another thread that Jet* have got it...Will see what transpires.

Howard Hughes 19th Jan 2005 02:17

Me thinks it will go to National Jet, with initial crewing/training provided by Jetstar. Why would Qantas mess with a time tested method of covering the "thinner' routes in their network?

Qantas gets coverage at a very reasonable rate with not much risk to them. National Jet streamline their operation so as not to be overburdened by costs and run a profitable organisation. It's a win win situation for all.

With the resulting increase in capacity provided by the 717, I do'nt think Qantas will want to take the risk associated with the increase in capacity on these more marginal routes.

They charge premium prices on most of these routes and it is a nice little earner for them. From what I have seen load factors are good and the cost to Qantas is minimal. Why change it?

I think Qantas have bigger fish to fry with the Jetstar operation.

Cheers, HH.

:ok:

PS: Take a look around bean-counters running everything, ask your self which is cheaper? In house or contract? You only have to look at catering, cleaning, baggage handling, trans-tasman flights, everything is being contracted out. The only place Qantas keeps thing's in house, is where they see a financial/competetive advantage for doing so.

chimbu warrior 19th Jan 2005 04:05

Whoever gets it, I imagine the 717's will again be painted in QF Link colours.....................some of them must be getting @rse-heavy carrying so many coats of painon the tail..........Impulse scheme 1, Impulse scheme 2, QantasLink, Jetstar........and now QantasLink again.

Add another couple of units of forward trim fellas!

topend3 19th Jan 2005 08:42


PS: Take a look around bean-counters running everything, ask your self which is cheaper? In house or contract? You only have to look at catering, cleaning, baggage handling, trans-tasman flights, everything is being contracted out. The only place Qantas keeps thing's in house, is where they see a financial/competetive advantage for doing so.
Howard- that what i think qf will be doing whoever it goes to,

your point???

TOPC 21st Jan 2005 01:47

Does anyone know when the announcement in due to be made ?

Cart_tart 21st Jan 2005 04:45

nope. i wish they would hurry up and tell us!
:confused:

scramjet77 21st Jan 2005 23:15

Nothing but 6 pages of BULL**** in the latest company news letter. So nothing new at the moment.

virgindriver 24th Jan 2005 20:29

Does anyone know? I thought the announcement to staff was yesterday......

ditzyboy 24th Jan 2005 22:27

It was mid December, then 31 December, then 19 January... Still waiting...

apacau 25th Jan 2005 03:23

I heard from a contact in QF management yesterday that he believes Jetstar have won the contract. However, I have no way to confirm/verify this.

only if 25th Jan 2005 14:30

Does it realy matter, as national jet is close to one of the worst run GA companies I have seen and the posts dont seem to indicate that jet star is any better

rescue 1 25th Jan 2005 19:30

only if it effects the people in NJS as they will loose their job, and then have to jump through the QF hoops to get a chance at the B717. Being unemployed is never a good thing.

Capn Bloggs 25th Jan 2005 23:28

Only if,

Does it realy matter, as national jet is close to one of the worst run GA companies I have seen and the posts dont seem to indicate that jet star is any better
Apparently not to you. If you can't be civil or at least justify your theories, how about you stay off the board and stop wasting my download time.

BAE146 25th Jan 2005 23:49

rescue1..............there will be plenty of jobs going around. if any of the NJS pilots are made redundant they will get jobs with Jetstar............a mate of mine down in Oz starts with Jet* next month and he reckons they will be recruiting heaps.............only snag will be if the new pilots can't (won't) pay for the A320 endorsements.:ok:


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