"JetStar" the name - 23 A320s ordered
 

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Just Announced by Qantas.

Now that was quick!!

I guess the only question now is, what about the crewing?

:ok:

Maybe they should consider subjecting the QF Board to the drug testing rather than the employees.

JetStar?

Good God. Reminds me of PornStar.

SG
:)

Reuters
Monday December 1, 2:08 PM AEDT

Qantas says to buy 23 Airbus planes for new carrier

SYDNEY, Dec 1 (Reuters) - Australia's biggest airline, Qantas Airways Ltd , said on Monday it plans to acquire 23 Airbus planes for its new low-cost carrier, to be named Jetstar.

Qantas Chief Executive Geoff Dixon said the airline would use new Airbus A320 aircraft from June, 2004, and would eventually have an all-A320 fleet.

"The domestic pleasure market is growing rapidly and now represents over 60 percent of all passengers. Jetstar will concentrate on growing this market," Dixon said.

Qantas confirmed in October it would launch a low-cost domestic carrier in May 2004 in an effort to fend off competition from Richard Branson's Virgin Blue.

The new, independently-run airline would have a minimum of 23 aircraft and the airline had been negotiating with Boeing Co , Airbus and aircraft lessors to acquire at least 23 Boeing 737-800 or A320 planes for the venture by mid-2005.

Qantas's fleet is dominated by Boeing aircraft, accounting for 72 percent of its 179 planes, including 50 737s. It has four Airbus A330s with another nine on order and 12 Airbus A380 planes due to be delivered from 2006 to 2011. Shares in Qantas, which is around 17-percent-owned by British Airways Plc , last traded 0.6 percent lower at A$3.31 in a weaker overall market.

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SYDGIRL...You don't have to be so hurtful...Anyhow, its a good name. (The board obviously have taste).

The airline will use new Airbus A320 aircraft from June next year and will eventually have an all-A320 fleet.

Jetstar will fly new A320 aircraft featuring 177 leather seats and an inflight audio entertainment system.

The domestic leisure market is growing rapidly and now represents over 60 per cent of all passengers. Jetstar will concentrate on growing this market with value fares while opening up new destinations.

The Qantas Board had last week approved a number of initiatives for Qantas’ domestic operations, including the:

· selection of Impulse Airlines as the operating entity for the low cost carrier;

· placement of an initial order for 23 A320s for the low cost carrier;

· reorganisation of the full service Qantas domestic airline into a two-class jet operation on all services, using only two aircraft types – Boeing 737s and 767s; and

· acquisition of an additional five Boeing 737-800 aircraft for the full service domestic airline to replace the airline’s last 737-300s and further modernise the fleet.

Using Impulse as the operating entity and with new aircraft, new slimline seats, a new booking system and innovative products, Qantas is confident Jetstar will be the lowest cost operator in Australia.

The start-up of Jetstar will add to the overall strength of the Qantas flying product, which currently comprises:

· Qantas International, offering 540 services each week to 77 destinations in 33 countries;

· Australian Airlines, the full service international leisure carrier, offering 50 flights each week to 11 destinations in six countries;

· Qantas Domestic, offering more than 2,500 flights each week; and

· QantasLink, the regional airline, offering more than 2,500 flights each week.

The purchase of the A320s and 737-800s will not stress the company’s balance sheet.

We will remain within our desired gearing level. The domestic market is strong and the international market is returning quickly from the effects of SARS and the war in Iraq. All our businesses are profitable.

Jetstar will begin selling seats in February 2004 and start flying in May 2004, using 14 Boeing 717s currently operated by Impulse Airlines under the QantasLink brand. The first Airbus A320 will be delivered in June 2004 and Jetstar will, over time, move to an all A320 fleet.

While the initial order is for 23 A320s, we can acquire more of these aircraft as Jetstar grows. As we said in October, Jetstar will operate a minimum of 23 aircraft by mid-2005.

The A320 family is used by two of the world’s most successful low cost carriers, Jetblue and EasyJet, and it has an outstanding track record, including excellent fuel efficiency.

The airline’s route network and fare structure will be announced in January 2004.

The Board’s approval for the acquisition of an additional five Boeing 737-800s highlights the full service airline’s strategy of simplifying its fleet to include only two aircraft types – Boeing 737s and 767s.

The new 737-800s, to be delivered next year, will replace the airline’s last 737-300s. The 737-800 is more fuel efficient and cost effective than the 737-300 and it offers more spacious cabins, more headroom and larger windows.

Qantas has taken delivery of 20 737-800s since February 2002 and another three of these aircraft will join the fleet by the middle of next year.

The additional five aircraft approved by the Board will take the total Qantas 737-800 fleet to 28. This will result in a large, uniform and more modern fleet for the full service airline and this will deliver further improvements to utilisation, reliability and on-time performance.

The full service Qantas domestic airline will continue to offer award-winning inflight entertainment – including video news, movies, sitcoms and sport shows as well as up to 10 channels of audio programs – and the popular Frequent Flyer program.

Qantas will maintain its ongoing investment in domestic product, both in the air and on the ground, including the extensive network of Qantas Club lounges.

Business and leisure travellers using the full service airline will continue to have access to an extensive range of discount fares. As well, the simpler domestic fare structure introduced in June has allowed travellers to mix and match one way fares to combine affordability and flexibility to better suit individual needs.

Can anyone from Impulse clarify whether the crewing arrangements are official ?

all i have to say is they chose the cheap aeroplane for the cheap setup...

speaks for itself

Aussie2, if it's been announced to the ASX, then it is 'official'. :mad:

Hold on to your horses boys and girls, this one is about to get 'fun'. :rolleyes: :suspect: :{

Try this one

www.jetstar.com.au

http://www.jetstar.com.au/press/2003...iarelease2.pdf

DJ737

The Roo Rooter :E :ok:

If you can't operate a Lockheed product I suppose the next best thing is to name the airline after a Lockheed product:


http://www.adastron.com/aviation/Jetstar.jpg


Cheers

The livery
 

http://www.jetstar.com.au/images/mainImage.jpg

www.jetstar.com.au

Sydney
1 December 2003

JETSTAR BRAND AND LIVERY UNVEILED

Australia’s newest domestic airline, Jetstar, today unveiled its brand and livery
featuring a design inspired by the Southern Cross.
Chief Executive of Jetstar, Alan Joyce, said the brand and livery had been
developed after extensive customer research that covered not only design
elements, but also the image positioning of the airline.
“Jetstar will offer a fresh and open approach to air travel, and be committed to
offering its customers the lowest fares,” Mr Joyce said.
“Jetstar is about simplicity and fun, and we wanted our brand to encapsulate
those qualities.”
He said the Jetstar brand design was based on the Southern Cross, with the
orange star in the Jetstar logo representing the smallest star of the Cross,
Epsilon Crucis – the only five point star in the Southern Cross as it is
represented on the Australian flag.
“The airline’s colours – orange, silver and black – were chosen for their bold,
modern feel. It is a combination that appeals to all age groups, and really sets
us apart from any other airline,” Mr Joyce said.
Sydney-based design firm Moon Design and Melbourne advertising agency,
Dewey and Horton collaborated on the design with Jetstar’s marketing

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Keg,

You certainly got it right there !!

Moderate to severe turbulence ahead.

Regards A2

Yes, things are certainly going to get interesting. Any Impulse crew out there heard anything or are you already celebrating?

ps. Keg and Hugh Jarse: looks like I might get to keep that $50 and my left nut:ok: phew:) .

JetStar?! What a crap name!
 

What the hell was wrong with something uniquly Ozzie?

Some interesting JetStar search results!

http://www.ultimaterollercoaster.com...r_casino.shtml

http://www.jetstar.co.uk/

:rolleyes:

So whats the likely recruitment implications for GA drivers. Will it reslut in much mvement upwards, ie will it create new slots for biys and girls moving up from GA or will so many ex AN drivesr fill them not much will change for us.

What about the 717's, will they go?? surely it would be silly to put a 177 seat airbus on a route that averging 110 seats which is ideal for the 717.

It appears to me that the B717 is being replaced by a bigger capacity aircraft. This will require more passengers to justify the aircraft and there are no prizes for guessing how and where they will come from.

The move could be part of a greater re-organisation within QF.

Without a big increase in the number of passengers flying and with the use of larger aircraft it is hard to see many new job opportunities for pilots in the near future.

Growth and expansion at DJ could slow down.

Now it's time to see if AIPA really have any cohuna's. Industrial action time? You betcha....

Now it's time to see if AIPA really have any cohuna's. Industrial action time? You betcha....

not in a million years. like the AOA up here, no balls and never will have. watched from a distance during the AFAP brawl in '89. big promises from them but in the end no action -why? -AIPA is made up of QF management clones. good luck to the young guys about to get a BIG break in this great industry!

There is no possible legal action that is either safe or sensible at this time. Dixon stated in a letter to pilots that they have been summarily excluded from the deal and no correspondence will be entered into. Game over everyone -- Impulse crew it, domestic mainline evaporates. :(

Dow Jones

Australia's Qantas: Each Airbus Has US$50M Tag

SYDNEY (Dow Jones)--Australia's Qantas Airways Ltd. said Monday it ordered 23 A320 aircraft from Airbus.

Qantas said its new low-cost domestic carrier, which will be called Jetstar, will use the A320s.

Jetstar will compete in Australia with no-frills carrier Virgin Blue.

Qantas chief executive Geoff Dixon wouldn't value the Airbus contract, but told reporters each plane has a price tag of about US$50 million. Analysts had expected Qantas to purchase just nine aircraft before the launch, and to have 23 in the Jetstar fleet by mid 2005.

The bidding between Airbus and Boeing Co. had been "very aggressive", Dixon said, with Qantas very pleased with the price paid.

Dixon said he is confident Jetstar won't take market share from the full service Qantas domestic operation and can conduct business alongside rival Virgin Blue.

The domestic leisure market is tipped to grow 15%-20%, he said.

Dixon added that the domestic market is "quite strong" at the moment, with local operations to provide a record 2003-04 profit for Qantas.

Qantas isn't launching Jetstar "from a position of panic" or from the competitive threat posed by Virgin Blue, he said.

All Qantas operations are profitable at the moment, Dixon added.

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Very neighbourly of Lockheed Martin to permit Qantas to use the name of the Lockheed C-140 to distinguish Australias' new El-Cheapo domestic airline.I'm surprised that the name"Jetstar" is not protected by a tangle of legal razorwire.

Is this the next section of the trojan horse qantas are installing?
As regards the name,when bmibabi started up customers were accidently going to a porn site with nearly the same name.
Bmibabi pilots now do 4 sector days includind going to the east med,there are no crew meals loaded so you take your own sarnies and thermos.Is that the same in VB.

Hoss, what have they got to celebrate? Working flat out and as a captain earning less than a Longhaul S/0 or CSM in mainline, I pass my heartfelt condolences out to them all. Just wish they agreed to work for what they are worth.

"...... servicing the pleasure market....." can't wait to see what they show on them back o seat vid screens!!:p :p

Yeh Right Pete Conrad, whatever you reckon mate !!!!!
:p HaHaHaHa !

Trojan horse may be correct franga. All the same I like the paint scheme and colour. Certainly is eye catching. I also like the fact they are putting inflight entertainment on board. Jetblue in the US has a telly on every seat in their 320's. This will hopefully wake up the top end in Virgin to do the same. Syd to Per with no entertainment is a joke!

I haven't seen any figures for the pilot's so before we fly off on a tangent we should probably wait and see. I don't believe Mr Dixon's comments much at all these days. He is directly attacking the mainline boys, no question.

Dont get too excisted about the inflight entertainment Spermy - it is audio only...same as DJ.

Thanks pax. Thats a shame but it was a nice dream while it lasted.

From the Rockewll Collins website back in Sep 2003

The cabins of the new Virgin Blue Boeing 737s will feature Rockwell Collins' Programmable Audio Video Entertainment System (PAVES™), offering overhead video on 10.4-inch retractable monitors and 24 channels of high-fidelity digital in-seat audio programming. The monitors offer passengers wide viewing angles with crisp and bright picture quality.


DJ737

The Roo Rooter:E :ok:

What great timing!!

Announce the name and logo, togther with startup details the very same week the opposition floats on the stockmarket. Wait for further announcements this and next week, which might make the new shares flounder.

I gotta hand it to the man, what a clever idea!! :ooh:

Hoss,

If the salary rumours are anything like true, I cant imagine many other professional groups "out celebrating" after agreeing to significantly less than the going rate for their upcoming salary and conditions.

Sounds like the A320 cabin will be like Jet Blue in the US - no galleys fitted which means extra room (Jet Blue's seat pitch is superior to all other Low Wages airlines) Screen in the back of each seat with entertainment provided by Direct TV (data link from ground with mainly re-runs of sit-coms).

May cause some late nights for that balding little whinger at DJ.

Good luck to all the crew at Impulse with the launch of Jetstar.

Great bunch of people who deserve all the best!

No I dont work with Impulse but had a lot to do with them in a recent previous job before moving to Brisvegas as my log in name suggests

All the best guys!

Gotta agree with Keg and Oz2 on this one...

"Fasten your seatbelts folks........we've just entered the sh!t"

So it begins...the era of flying for peanuts...

How can ANYONE be happy that we now have third world (or worse) wages to fly jets in our country?
Regardless of who gets to fly them we have taken another GIANT leap backwards in this industry!
A very sad future awaits all those aspiring young airline pilots in this country.
There are no winners here amongst the pilot groups,just losers.
Whoever gets to fly it may be over the moon initially at that shiny new jet they get to sit in or that promotion they just got but when the novelty wears off and the reality sets in that all current and future jet jocky's in this country are screwed it will be too late.
If there was ever a time for ALL pilots in Australia to get together and fight the REAL enemy (greedy bloody management) then this is it!

















:sad: :sad: :sad:

When QF shorthaul is absorbed or reduced to a token gesture within 5 years maybe there will be the opportunity to transfer from Jetstar to longhaul. Any bets ?.

Guess you saw the 7.30 Report too Chilli?? Like it or not whether you work for QF, Virgin, Impulse, Kendall, Eastern, Sunnies, AirNorth, GAM or any GA operator, today you got shafted. Got plenty of vaso for the times ahead? You'll need it....:mad:

Reuters

SYDNEY (Reuters) -Qantas Chief Financial Officer Peter Gregg Qantas put the cost of the Airbus planes at about $1.15 billion -- "if you multiply 23 by about $50 (million) you get an idea" -- adding that the start-up capital cost of the airline was about A$100 million ($72 million).

However, Qantas was widely expected to have negotiated at least a 20 percent discount on the sticker price, said one analyst who requested anonymity.

Airbus was also believed to have agreed to find buyers for Qantas' aging Boeing 717s as they were retired in years ahead, the analyst said.

The new discount carrier, to be based in Melbourne, would have a workforce of about 2,000, Jetstar Chief Executive Alan Joyce said. About 600 of the new airline's staff would migrate from regional carrier Impulse, a unit Qantas acquired two years ago, with 1,400 new hires.

Dixon downplayed concerns that Australia, a market of only 20 million people, was not big enough to handle Jetstar without cannibalizing Qantas's full-service main carrier.

"We believe they can both operate side-by-side, along with Virgin, and all be successful," he said.

Qantas' fleet is dominated by Boeing aircraft, accounting for 72 percent of its 179 planes, including 50 737s. It has four Airbus A330s with another nine on order and 12 Airbus A380 planes due to be delivered from 2006 to 2011.

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With Impulse now heading in a different direction,and mainline eventually going 738,anyone with any ideas on how Qantaslink jet services will be structured in the future(if there is one?)
Both the Bus and 738 seem a little big for any of the current route structure.:cool: :cool: