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Old 15th Aug 2003, 09:19
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Spad; I was trying to make a point that with all due respect I think you missed. However, mmmbop's latest post has imho made the intention of my post much clearer.



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Old 15th Aug 2003, 12:14
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You don't fool anyone. What a crock !
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Old 15th Aug 2003, 14:31
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VB was about to go broke and out of business THE VERY WEEK that Ansett collapsed.
First I've heard of that one, mmmbop. You're probably confusing it with the Compass scandal, when Ansett was 2 weeks off going under (my source - David Jull, MHR).

had Ansett held out one more week....
Ansett was well past its expiry date when it collapsed. Pillaged and raped from within.

you seem to forget that just 2 years ago it was VB that was lucky, not the Australian public
I doubt that too many of the Australian public would agree with you there, mmmbop - well of those who give a rat's...which would be a minutely infinitesimal percentage in any case.
Virgin Blue have had a dramatic impact on airfares in Australia - had Ansett still been there instead of VB, it would just have been more of the same....high airfares with the occasional "specials", flying clapped out pieces of under-maintained, aged aircraft.

VB pilots and FAs get shafted
With plenty more queueing up, waiting for THEIR turn!

But people getting on here and bleating about 'scabs'
Nobody is "bleating" about scabs. Quite simply 1989 was - to quote James Strong - a "watershed" for Australian aviation. The dispute created 2 classifications of pilots - the scabs, and everybody else.
Those scabs were a relatively small number then (about 22% of the original airline pilot group), and are an even smaller group today when included in the TOTAL Australian commercial pilot population, and so the definitive term makes them easily identifiable.
As derogatory as some people may find the word, they willingly chose it at the time when they felt they could only benefit from embracing all that it represented.

All of the agression they have on this subject..
Methinks you're confusing "aggression" with "animated discussion/debate". Everyone involved then has "moved on", however there is a recurring lesson from 1989, whether it involves pilots, pastrycooks, or your own family.
You can't expect to sh!t on people in a big way, and then expect them to welcome you back.

That small group (the scabs) who sh@t on the rest and - by the way - who steadfastly REFUSED to let any of the other "cleanskins" back into Oz aviation for the whole of Ansett's life after 1989...some 12 years... are those who proved over an extended period, that they were "incapable of moving on", and are NOW the ones bleating.
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Old 15th Aug 2003, 17:52
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Get over it. Its so f#"*&@&%ing boring.
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Old 15th Aug 2003, 18:13
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For those of you that say " get over it ", " it was 14 years ago " etc., if a friend or friends bent you over and gave you a right royal rogering and then the next day you went and had a beer with them................ you really are a sad, pathetic, loser with absolutlety no self respect or concept of loyalty.
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Old 15th Aug 2003, 18:23
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Yeh, next day, not 5,100 + days later you lahooza.
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Old 15th Aug 2003, 18:31
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We all like to think we're in the bracket of the "professional". In fact, just in another thread I see we're being compared to doctors..?
You dont have to look nor read too far or deeply into some of the completely inane, dull, childish, hopelessly pathetic dribble that comes out of the likes of some of these "professionals" that makes it no wonder to me, why the industry is taking a dive.

Page after page of rubbish on this "forum", perpertrated by individuals (pilots) who are obviously devoid of any other interest nor hobby.
So much time and effort into publicy humiliating and embarrasing us as a group (so much colour and italics even). Sadly, they're under the impression their soapbox spiel of perpetual rot sounds intelligent and interesting, I almost feel sorry for them.

To try and justify this simplistic and stupid remark over the airwaves, not only says, "there's more of us morons out here" to the world, but exposes the infantile mindset for what it is. People with mental issues I suspect.

KM, buy a surfboard.............jeezus
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Old 15th Aug 2003, 19:02
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By the look of your post it would appear that I fooled you UR2!

Apparently I need to spell it out to the likes of you - I'm as much a scab as VB_Capt is a non-scab!

Can anyone point me to a genuine post from a scab where he/she expresses even a miniscule amount of regret for his/her actions in ’89? We’ve got the VB_Capt type scabs pretending not to be, and attempting to justify his unconscionable actions, and I’ve no doubt there are more than a few non-scabs who wished they’d scabbed and avoided the trauma of our post ’89 life, but I’ve NEVER EVER seen even a single word of apology or regret from a scab.

After 14 years I could probably even have a beer with a guy who approached me in a genuine effort to bury the hatchet, but not if he greeted me with a “G’day mate – I know you did the honourable thing, but I’m prepared to forget all that and be friends again.”

So – any scabs have even the slightest regret? Any scab ever wished he didn’t? Ever apologised to one of your former friends?

Didn’t think so!
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Old 15th Aug 2003, 19:46
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Well, I gotta agree with you, meanman!...

lots of rubbish appears on this website!...

like, your post for instance!!
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Old 15th Aug 2003, 20:55
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Ive noted your remarkable contributions over time too amos.
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Old 15th Aug 2003, 21:46
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3 posts, meanestman - all of them written with an air of "superiority", eg, the post from one of the other forums:
do you honestly think doctors would have a forum for pillocks like this, where you expose yourselves as the epitomy of the boring and self indulged. I laugh when pilots compare themselves to doctors and alike.
You blokes really do revolve around the same door, topic after topic... and publicy air some really dopey sounding cr ap.

(There's that colour, and the italics, even!)

We don't need to put on the airs and graces that YOU seem to think we should, by pretending to be something we aren't.

This is a pilots' forum - if you can't help yourself from reading "Page after page of rubbish", then seek some professional help from within your own ranks.
The topics discussed here are relevant to aviation, be it past present, or future. If it doesn't suit you, then I suggest you move on, mm.
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Old 16th Aug 2003, 20:57
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Me?? pretencious?.....................moi???

And KM, Im a pilot, not a doctor. Tripe the type you guys air so relentlessly makes it hard to feel proud of it sometimes.
I find solace in the fact that Im conviced youre in the minority.

Continue beating yourselves into a frenzy over something everyone else has long forgotten. As for the infantile comment made on the radio, it is simply the act of a moron, embarrasing for us all, and somewhat lacking in courage too.
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Old 17th Aug 2003, 09:11
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You stupid boys and girls!
Scabs are heroes and heroes are scabs.
End of story.
No scab apoligises for being a scab - the missus would not allow it.
The days of the professional pilot are numbered, and soon you will all be relegated to coming to work in navy blue singlets, thongs, and a handkerchief tied around your head.
And all thanks to the scabs and heroes of '89.
So for you idiots who want to bleat "get over it", it will be you, undoubtedly the youthful pilots of today, who will pay a higher price professionally, than anyone who can claim to be an '89er.
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Old 17th Aug 2003, 09:34
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Unhappy On and on and on

Times up, children.

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