The Steam From the Coffee !!
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The Steam From the Coffee !!
From NZ (granny) Herald
10.06.2003
By SCOTT MacLEOD and LOUISA CLEAVE
When Anne Berg's flight out of New Plymouth was delayed by mechanical problems last night, she sat in the airport lounge and watched television news coverage of Friday's fatal crash.
Her family, sitting with her for the hour and a half the repairs took, jokingly asked her if she was still keen to be flying.
Twenty minutes into her flight to Auckland the plane filled with smoke and the pilot announced they would make an emergency landing.
Mrs Berg was one of 23 passengers who spent a nervous 15 minutes flying into Auckland Airport last night after the pilot shut down one of the two engines as a "precaution".
The Air New Zealand flight, NZ8812, was scheduled to leave New Plymouth at 6pm but was delayed for mechanical reasons. The shutdown occurred about 8pm.
Emergency services were put on standby before the aircraft landed safely.
The emergency came just three days after a light plane crashed near Christchurch Airport, killing eight people in New Zealand's worst air disaster in 10 years.
The Saab 340 involved in last night's emergency was run by Air Nelson, owned by Air New Zealand.
Airline spokesman Glen Sowry said the aircraft flew for 15 minutes on one engine. He said the pilot shut the other engine down after the oil temperature condition indicator was activated. It was too soon to know if the indicator light was at fault or if there was an oil pressure problem.
Mrs Berg, 68, is heading to Cairns today. She said she was relieved to get off the plane once it landed.
Another passenger, 51-year-old Orlando Ladlad from New Plymouth, said he initially wasn't concerned because he could not hear the inflight PA system properly and did not know the pilot had announced he was turning off the engine.
However, he had noticed the smoke filling the cabin and a strong burning smell. "I just thought it was the steam from the coffee the stewardess was serving," he said.
Mr Ladlad said he realised the seriousness of the situation when he saw fire engines and emergency vehicles lined up along the runway as they came in to land.
All of the passengers clapped after the smooth landing.
Mr Sowry said the Saab was able to fly "perfectly safely" on one engine and pilots trained in simulators for such
10.06.2003
By SCOTT MacLEOD and LOUISA CLEAVE
When Anne Berg's flight out of New Plymouth was delayed by mechanical problems last night, she sat in the airport lounge and watched television news coverage of Friday's fatal crash.
Her family, sitting with her for the hour and a half the repairs took, jokingly asked her if she was still keen to be flying.
Twenty minutes into her flight to Auckland the plane filled with smoke and the pilot announced they would make an emergency landing.
Mrs Berg was one of 23 passengers who spent a nervous 15 minutes flying into Auckland Airport last night after the pilot shut down one of the two engines as a "precaution".
The Air New Zealand flight, NZ8812, was scheduled to leave New Plymouth at 6pm but was delayed for mechanical reasons. The shutdown occurred about 8pm.
Emergency services were put on standby before the aircraft landed safely.
The emergency came just three days after a light plane crashed near Christchurch Airport, killing eight people in New Zealand's worst air disaster in 10 years.
The Saab 340 involved in last night's emergency was run by Air Nelson, owned by Air New Zealand.
Airline spokesman Glen Sowry said the aircraft flew for 15 minutes on one engine. He said the pilot shut the other engine down after the oil temperature condition indicator was activated. It was too soon to know if the indicator light was at fault or if there was an oil pressure problem.
Mrs Berg, 68, is heading to Cairns today. She said she was relieved to get off the plane once it landed.
Another passenger, 51-year-old Orlando Ladlad from New Plymouth, said he initially wasn't concerned because he could not hear the inflight PA system properly and did not know the pilot had announced he was turning off the engine.
However, he had noticed the smoke filling the cabin and a strong burning smell. "I just thought it was the steam from the coffee the stewardess was serving," he said.
Mr Ladlad said he realised the seriousness of the situation when he saw fire engines and emergency vehicles lined up along the runway as they came in to land.
All of the passengers clapped after the smooth landing.
Mr Sowry said the Saab was able to fly "perfectly safely" on one engine and pilots trained in simulators for such
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Prehaps a little tricky to keep secret on a turboprop/piston but why do the crews on jets tell the pax. they are going to/have shut down an engine particuarly if you have four of them.?
Obviously if a return to departure airport is required they'll need an explination but surely if you contine onto the intended dest. as per usual (despite one engine shut down) and landed the pax. would be none the wiser - unlikley the journ'os would find out - the pax. wouldnt start getting edgy - and no adverse publicity would occur?
Obviously if a return to departure airport is required they'll need an explination but surely if you contine onto the intended dest. as per usual (despite one engine shut down) and landed the pax. would be none the wiser - unlikley the journ'os would find out - the pax. wouldnt start getting edgy - and no adverse publicity would occur?
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That goes to show that Australian airlines are not alone in serving consistently bad coffee
Flyby Kiwi, each situation is different, even in a multi-engine jet. Was there smoke in the cabin? ... Did the pax see fire or smoke emanating from the engine? I bet they'd want an explanation of both instances. Usually somebody in the cabin sees or hears something.
I understand the performance implications could be less of an impact with 1/4 shut down, but each scenario might be different. Don't forget the Cabin Crew are usually briefed with a TETS or whatever the mnemonic. Part of the protocol is to inform the passengers. How the crew deliver it depends on the scenario....
However, he had noticed the smoke filling the cabin and a strong burning smell. "I just thought it was the steam from the coffee the stewardess was serving," he said.
Flyby Kiwi, each situation is different, even in a multi-engine jet. Was there smoke in the cabin? ... Did the pax see fire or smoke emanating from the engine? I bet they'd want an explanation of both instances. Usually somebody in the cabin sees or hears something.
I understand the performance implications could be less of an impact with 1/4 shut down, but each scenario might be different. Don't forget the Cabin Crew are usually briefed with a TETS or whatever the mnemonic. Part of the protocol is to inform the passengers. How the crew deliver it depends on the scenario....
