STOP PRESS!!! Buster flew DJ!!!
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Well, we can lament the passing of "the good old days", and get stuck into the NWO whilst we're at it I suppose.
Big W. For their sake, I hope they're short! Not like me...
PER-MEL...I just couldn't do it now, boy do I miss the AN blue business class seats!
Oh well, time to let go of the old girl...we won't see her like again..
(Starting to sound a bit like EWL there!
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Big W. For their sake, I hope they're short! Not like me...
PER-MEL...I just couldn't do it now, boy do I miss the AN blue business class seats! Oh well, time to let go of the old girl...we won't see her like again..
(Starting to sound a bit like EWL there! )
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Buster.
My daughter 5'0"cute as a button, doesn't take prisoners, matess gorgeous blonde 5'9", they hunt as a pack.
amos me old
I keep saying, our generation had the very best of Australia, but they are now gone.
Fishing sounds good. Sound of aircraft going over is a ****** spooks the trout.
My daughter 5'0"cute as a button, doesn't take prisoners, matess gorgeous blonde 5'9", they hunt as a pack.
amos me old
I keep saying, our generation had the very best of Australia, but they are now gone.
Fishing sounds good. Sound of aircraft going over is a ****** spooks the trout.
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Yes 99 dollar fares to anywhere are a bargain really. Its made people look at going somewhere different for a change. I'm catching up with a mate I haven't seen for 5 years as a result. Will be unreal
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TIMEEEE said
Right On. Find out the name and HQ address of the CEO and send courteous, detailed, letter. He or she is proud of their organisation and values direct feedback from customers much more than middle level management reports which always say that everything is lovely and getting better even when water is lapping around their ankles.
1. Slow insurance payout from NRMA. Letter to (then) CEO resulted in cheque within two days via courier to my home.
2. Poor service from Myer 'Formal Wear' department. Letter to CEO Fletcher resulted in immediate investigation by Myer Stores' manager, apology, and $50 voucher.
3. Sick after quick meal at McDonald's on way to strip. Letter to Australia CEO Russo resulted in urgent call from district manager, thorough hygiene investigation of restaurant, and heap of food vouchers.
Always deal with the top. By definition any discourteous, non-caring people stay at the bottom.
BW
Over the years whenever I have payed for something and been treated poorly or didnt get the required level of service I put my complaints in writing to the CEO/GM or whoever is in position to effect a rapid response.
1. Slow insurance payout from NRMA. Letter to (then) CEO resulted in cheque within two days via courier to my home.
2. Poor service from Myer 'Formal Wear' department. Letter to CEO Fletcher resulted in immediate investigation by Myer Stores' manager, apology, and $50 voucher.
3. Sick after quick meal at McDonald's on way to strip. Letter to Australia CEO Russo resulted in urgent call from district manager, thorough hygiene investigation of restaurant, and heap of food vouchers.
Always deal with the top. By definition any discourteous, non-caring people stay at the bottom.
BW
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DJ seems to have the right idea & the right formula - up to now.
However, are they doing the right thing by delving into qasi-club lounges & prefered seating?.
Their success is mainly because they are different.
I hope DJ is not tempted to morph further towards full-service and become just another carrier.
However, are they doing the right thing by delving into qasi-club lounges & prefered seating?.
Their success is mainly because they are different.
I hope DJ is not tempted to morph further towards full-service and become just another carrier.
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MB,
1.Had to after Macca's exited the wrong way!
2. Sad day today; attended Noel Lovell's funeral at Ararat, VIC.
Noel went in on final last Saturday at Lethbridge VIC in his KR2.
~500 at the service in Ararat Soaring Club's hangar. Vale Noel.
BW
1.Had to after Macca's exited the wrong way!
2. Sad day today; attended Noel Lovell's funeral at Ararat, VIC.
Noel went in on final last Saturday at Lethbridge VIC in his KR2.
~500 at the service in Ararat Soaring Club's hangar. Vale Noel.
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I assume that you gentlemen when refering to the "good old days" are indeed refering to flying or some other aspect of the aviation industry.
THE "GOOD OLD DAYS" saw us ALL getting ripped off blind by the then 2 majors. Flying literally was for the elite and high income earners.
The "good old days" had some of the worst CRM principles God could ever have imagined. Some of those are still present at QF today according to some of the lads I have spoken to.
The "good old days" are as neanderthal as some of the thinking that goes on here from time to time.
All I can say is thank god the good old days are a thing of the past and but a figment of our imaginations. We are flying around in brand new a/c, our family and friends can travel for a fraction of the cost which would have otherwise restricted most if not all of alot of peoples travel plans of late.
Sorry lads but the "good old days" sucked big time and along with millions of others, I don't miss them one iota!
THE "GOOD OLD DAYS" saw us ALL getting ripped off blind by the then 2 majors. Flying literally was for the elite and high income earners.
The "good old days" had some of the worst CRM principles God could ever have imagined. Some of those are still present at QF today according to some of the lads I have spoken to.
The "good old days" are as neanderthal as some of the thinking that goes on here from time to time.
All I can say is thank god the good old days are a thing of the past and but a figment of our imaginations. We are flying around in brand new a/c, our family and friends can travel for a fraction of the cost which would have otherwise restricted most if not all of alot of peoples travel plans of late.
Sorry lads but the "good old days" sucked big time and along with millions of others, I don't miss them one iota!
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Hmmm...You make some valid points there Sperm bank, but don't confuse your perspective with those of others.
Ripped off blind. Well, yes. Prices were high, so was the service, schedules had plenty of downtime for maintenance & most people I know, genuinly enjoyed their work & company. Depending on the relative timing of the "good old days", interest rates were a lot higher than they are now. My point is that everything is relative.
CRM . Well, you've got me there. I'm not a pilot & can't comment on that, but, they did bring all the aircraft back didn't they? Skill or luck is not my call though.
Neanderthal. Well, I suppose so. With any luck, these current good times, you describe, may never be considered Neanderthal. Again, it's all relative.
Brand new aeroplanes. Yes, I'm sure you love your 738's or whatever you fly, just as I loved my shiny new "3" crew 762's!
I still see my 762's every single day & it reminds me of better times.As I said, I don't dispute your perspective & your points are all valid. My rose coloured glasses have indeed faded somewhat, but I still remember good times, good stories & good friendships. We were just a small part of the big picture, but I loved coming to work, every single day. I'm glad you seem to enjoy your role now & hope you remember the great times like me, or even EWL
Cheers.
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baggage stuff
flew with virgin in oct to tassie, bag was broken by their guys. Staff were courteous about it all, gave me a reference number and told me to contact them in a few weeks. I did call them a few days after i got back to melbourne, and Im still waiting to hear from them!!! This was in October!!!! I have called them about 6 or 7 times and they keep saying that they will get back to me.....still nothing!!!!!!
ive given up will fix the bag myself i think!
ive given up will fix the bag myself i think!
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspap...669601,00.html
May 05, 2003
Virgin to launch airline in US
By Nic Hopkins
SIR Richard Branson expects to have a Virgin-branded domestic US airline flying within six months, much earlier than expected, as part of a plan to have a network of low-cost carriers operating in strategic markets around the world.
Sir Richard said the start-up, which has the working title V America but may be called Virgin Red to distinguish it as a sister airline of Australia’s Virgin Blue, would probably launch with eight jets. He indicated that it would fly the east-west corridor on routes “longer than some of the short-haul operators in America”.
The billionaire entrepreneur told The Times: “I would hope we would launch in the next six months. We’re getting it together at the moment. It will be a low-cost airline, but high quality, with seat-back videos and leather seats.” He added: “We haven’t settled on a name yet, but it will be something like V America or Virgin Red.”
Virgin hopes to grow the airline organically for two to three years before taking it to market. It would be the Virgin group’s third budget offshoot, following Virgin Blue and Brussels-based Virgin Express.
Sir Richard said: “Once it’s up and running we’ll have Europe pretty well covered, as well as America, Australia, and there are some other continents we’re thinking about." A team from Virgin has been working on the US project since the start of the year and is modelling it on the low-cost business pioneered by Southwest Airlines. Start-up costs are expected to be about $15 million (£9 million).
Sir Richard would not reveal which companies Virgin is seeking to tie-up as partners. However, under US law it will be restricted to 25 per cent voting control and less than 50 per cent ownership of the new airline. It is understood that there has been strong interest from banks looking to invest in the start-up.
May 05, 2003
Virgin to launch airline in US
By Nic Hopkins
SIR Richard Branson expects to have a Virgin-branded domestic US airline flying within six months, much earlier than expected, as part of a plan to have a network of low-cost carriers operating in strategic markets around the world.
Sir Richard said the start-up, which has the working title V America but may be called Virgin Red to distinguish it as a sister airline of Australia’s Virgin Blue, would probably launch with eight jets. He indicated that it would fly the east-west corridor on routes “longer than some of the short-haul operators in America”.
The billionaire entrepreneur told The Times: “I would hope we would launch in the next six months. We’re getting it together at the moment. It will be a low-cost airline, but high quality, with seat-back videos and leather seats.” He added: “We haven’t settled on a name yet, but it will be something like V America or Virgin Red.”
Virgin hopes to grow the airline organically for two to three years before taking it to market. It would be the Virgin group’s third budget offshoot, following Virgin Blue and Brussels-based Virgin Express.
Sir Richard said: “Once it’s up and running we’ll have Europe pretty well covered, as well as America, Australia, and there are some other continents we’re thinking about." A team from Virgin has been working on the US project since the start of the year and is modelling it on the low-cost business pioneered by Southwest Airlines. Start-up costs are expected to be about $15 million (£9 million).
Sir Richard would not reveal which companies Virgin is seeking to tie-up as partners. However, under US law it will be restricted to 25 per cent voting control and less than 50 per cent ownership of the new airline. It is understood that there has been strong interest from banks looking to invest in the start-up.
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As I mentioned on a similar thread, George W. is playing such a big part in this, that it's being named after him....Virgin Bush!!
Isn't it funny how the Yanks can limit foreign ownership with a huge market & we can allow 100% foreign owned airlines in, to the detriment of the incumbents. Sorry, not trying to inflame or create another argument, what's done is done, but what sort of "free trade" agreement will we end up with once our International Man of Steel finishes his globetrotting?
Isn't it funny how the Yanks can limit foreign ownership with a huge market & we can allow 100% foreign owned airlines in, to the detriment of the incumbents. Sorry, not trying to inflame or create another argument, what's done is done, but what sort of "free trade" agreement will we end up with once our International Man of Steel finishes his globetrotting?
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fantastic
wow imagine that....next they will be able to compete against the star alliance/one world alliance offering round world 'low cost' airfares.....
theres a thought!!!
theres a thought!!!
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Now it's the Rats turn!!!
As I said, 15 years since I flew QF domestic, but I'll be flying on Wednesday morning to CBR! Drop me a PM if there's anybody out there operating QF814!
Looking forward to comparing the service!
Looking forward to comparing the service!
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I flew virgin once and once only. A cheapie to the olympics(old terminal days) The aircraft seemed ok but I agree with the page 1 comments about the staff. Very dodgy. They were all eye candy but far from professional. I have 2 friends who are hosties with the company and I assure you that it is not the size of their IQ that got the the gig.
Point 2 (ties in with another thread here). Qantas is suck also. I always chose to fly the qantas BA code share flight brisbane, singapore london whenever i went to europe because i found the BA aircraft fit me quite well (i am am 6'5") as the pitch config allowed me to stretch out under the seat in front perfectly to be dead straight in a real reclined pose. Since they have substituted the aircraft and the cabin crew (I have the utmost respect for the flight deck guys as they are always on the ball) I have sucked in my 450000 frequent flyers and gone to singapore arlines. The staff are excellent right from the gate at brisvegas to where ever. The food is always adequate plus and the inflight entertainment with the seatback screens makes the many qantas flights I have suffered a very poor distant second.
Goodness me even AirCanada was better than qantas and that is saying something.
Point 2 (ties in with another thread here). Qantas is suck also. I always chose to fly the qantas BA code share flight brisbane, singapore london whenever i went to europe because i found the BA aircraft fit me quite well (i am am 6'5") as the pitch config allowed me to stretch out under the seat in front perfectly to be dead straight in a real reclined pose. Since they have substituted the aircraft and the cabin crew (I have the utmost respect for the flight deck guys as they are always on the ball) I have sucked in my 450000 frequent flyers and gone to singapore arlines. The staff are excellent right from the gate at brisvegas to where ever. The food is always adequate plus and the inflight entertainment with the seatback screens makes the many qantas flights I have suffered a very poor distant second.
Goodness me even AirCanada was better than qantas and that is saying something.
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The staff are excellent right from the gate at brisvegas
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"Qantas is suck also"?!!!??!
hmmmmmmm
So, anyway, Buster... how is your sister, Misty?
I still recall your pride at her achievements at the Olympics!
Such a penetrating swim as I recall...
hmmmmmmm
So, anyway, Buster... how is your sister, Misty?
I still recall your pride at her achievements at the Olympics!
Such a penetrating swim as I recall...
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Cheers Locutus!
Yes, I still fog up just thinking about her achievements. Last I heard, she was desperately looking for a husband, so she could adopt his name! Go figure?
Roll on Athens!
Yes, I still fog up just thinking about her achievements. Last I heard, she was desperately looking for a husband, so she could adopt his name! Go figure?
Roll on Athens!
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Well, what can I say!
CBR hasn't really changed at all since I last visited there! What a joke.
As for the rats service, surley check in staff, no legroom, worn out 734's, old crew...yep, same old rat!
I guess I'd better get used to it.
CBR hasn't really changed at all since I last visited there! What a joke.
As for the rats service, surley check in staff, no legroom, worn out 734's, old crew...yep, same old rat! I guess I'd better get used to it.