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Old 12th Jan 2003, 12:21
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Exclamation Virgin Blue Pacific

Could it be that there are 3 767-300's on the ground over N America way all sporting Virgin Blue
livery?
It seems a passenger who had flown from Vancouver connecting with a DJ flight in Sydney saw these Beauties with her very own eyes.
Does anyone care to confirm/deny?
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Old 12th Jan 2003, 13:27
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Not wanting to start anything here by any means, but this 'passenger', does she know the difference between Boeings? Could of it been 737's that she saw? Just curious. I'm led to believe if/when "Pacific" gets up and running, a revised livery would be applied anyway.
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Old 12th Jan 2003, 20:06
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This is the second time Vancouver has come up in relation to Virgin Blue... Very interesting....

I'd like to know more.

However 767-300 surprises me. You sure it wasn't 737-300s or even 737-700s?
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dj has three more HGW -700s on order for delivery in the next couple of months so i suspect it may have been these aircraft that our "spotter" saw, 767-300s for dj? i think not, this would go against all that dj stands for, quick turnarounds and high frequency services especially, i believe when dj does go intl that the '73 will be the aircraft of choice....
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Quick, thirty minute turnarounds and high frequency are not the highest priority of medium-haul tourist class airlines.

Lots of bums on seats and an aircraft that can take lots of palletised freight is much more important i.e. the 767-200/300 is better suited than a 737 with manual 'chuck the bags in' cargo hold and a relatively small amount of seats....Seems to be working just fine for the Ochra folk at Australian Airlines
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yes, good point, though the 737-700/800 would be ideal out of east coast ports to pacific destinations for dj, they haven't even decided where they are flying too yet and will probably not happen till 3rd quarter of this year at the earliest, why would they have 3 767's painted up sitting in Vancouver???? i don't think these aircraft are 767's....
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Cool

Who says they haven't decided.........

Expect announcement any day regarding their first destination, and also new Aircraft orders.
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It's quite possible the passenger may not know the difference between a 76 and a 73.
However in terms of livery, the aircraft was described to look identical to Virgin Blue with Pacific
emblazoned on it...
After reading the last reply, I'm looking forward to the announcement date...
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Old 14th Jan 2003, 23:56
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If there is an announcement soon, it's been a long time coming. I thought the second coming of the Lord might have happened sooner actually. Godfrey has been a little quiet lately. Maybe VB or VP are going to launch the 737-900X??? Steal QF's thunder.
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Even DJ should know that bilateral treaties dictate traffic rights for international & regional services.
Interestingly enough they wrote to regional Pacific countries asking if they wanted DJ to fly into their own back yard - and at whose expense. Their own national carrier would be the first to feel the effects of DJ’s arrival.
They should be checking with the DoT&RS/IASC in Canberra to see where open skies agreements are in place (USA & SIN) &/or what shelf capacity is available for their use.
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Old 15th Jan 2003, 01:04
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Well if VB want to go to Singapore and Hong Kong, they're going to need something bigger than the 737. A 767 or 757 would be ideal!

As for the -900, one of the problems being encountered is that it's still single aisle and with more pax than the 800 it obviously increases turnaround times with the unloading and loading of pax. If the 2nd fwd door was utilised it then hardly beats the 800 for capacity, and the 800 also has greater range anyway! Not the ideal aircraft for domestic ops when compared with the 800!
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Talking

I could tell you all however then I would have to kill you and I wouldn't like to do that.

Expect BIG announcement very soon.
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Obviously

DRW/DPS.
Will be interesting to see the 'network' announced prior to the float.
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Old 15th Jan 2003, 03:18
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Wink

Obviously.......

But wrong.
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Old 15th Jan 2003, 09:38
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Come on Air Support, you tease. Tell us something. We wont tell anyone
Check out the company's register and find that Pacific Blue Airlines has just been registered with HQ in Brisbane.
Interesting times ahead.
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Pacific Blue Airlines was registered as a company on 05/09/01 so its not quite a recent registration.
Does VS have traffic rights between KUL/HKG and AUS?
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Old 15th Jan 2003, 14:48
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HGW yep can confirm Pacific Blue is looking very promising!!!! They don't want Virgin in the name....

Airsupport.... u know what I know Fleet announcement very very soon and 1st INTL destination...

clue: lets say you can get there with a 737 from the east-coast....

CASA Proposal currently being written!

ETOPS proposal already complete and presented to CASA!!
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Old 15th Jan 2003, 20:15
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Big clue.......

Obviously a B737 couldn't make it from the west coast to (you and I know where).
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Look for flights to Fiji. And if you want proof, why are Virgin now rabbiting on about Air Pacific?
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Virgin will make their fleet announcement @ 11am today in T2 @ Sydney.
Only 30mins to go !
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