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Old 23rd Jan 2003, 08:55
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We've been standing by but nothing's been reported.

Come on Keg, you must have some good gen or do you to remain a version of the three wise monkeys rolled into one?
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Old 23rd Jan 2003, 20:23
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DFO to retire in march at the end of his term.

He offered his resignation to the board over the' LOSA affair", but the board turned it down, so as not to 'destablise' flight operations any further.

The possible post march line up is:

DFO - 'mini-me'
DDFO - ' Dr Evil'
GMFOT - " The Black Prince"

Outsiders for the top slot are TJ and the last president of AIPA.
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Old 24th Jan 2003, 11:32
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Taking the Fifth

Sorry Reggie, anything I may know in this regard is either scuttlebutt or speculation and whilst I do engage in the odd bit of speculation from time to time, I'm too well 'known' around the traps to be commenting on things in the past.

As to the future, I know who fartsock refers to as the future DFO but I'm not sure of his other two. I would've thought that some of the incumbents could be considered as 'tainted goods'. Time will tell I guess. Not that anyone asks me for my opinion these days. Last time I was asked for my feedback I was told that I was 'wrong'. No different to any other day at work really but a little disheartening when someone asks you what you think to be told that you're wrong!

I have heard the odd rumour of splitting the GGMFO from the CP role though- again that may be scuttle butt. Would remove what is considered by some line crews as a potential conflict of interest in the position. Again, time will tell.
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Old 27th Jan 2003, 23:41
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Keg,

Your modesty is disturbing, as I didn't think you were so retiring with your views. I do however know how you feel to be asked for an opinion to be then knocked down. Still, don't let that deter you from practicising your art.

Pip Pip!!
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Old 28th Jan 2003, 02:05
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I can't believe the "Miliner" hasn't been put up for contention.
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Old 29th Jan 2003, 01:27
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Fartsock,
I heard that in "marijuana alley" , "mini me" has gone past his use-by date- at one stage I think he was in the running, but as one of the results of LOSA he will soon be back as a line pilot..
Dr Evil to retain his position as Deputy Chief Henchman...
Ex AIPA boss to be new CP will possibly an outside run by the CP of Australian Airlines (interesting one that one)...
The gentleman (I use that term loosely) who Gandenburg referred to to head up Jet Coonex in NZ...
By the way, who is the Black Prince????
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Old 29th Jan 2003, 01:56
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Gents,

Have heard on very good authority that the big chiefs in the city are less than impressed with the candidates speculated upon in this lofty forum. Having observed the chest thumping and postulation from a distance they are seriously considering a rank outsider with formal management training, flight ops management experience and the charisma of Al Dunlap. This would be consistent with the wishes of the "main man" to reduce costs and dramatically downsize what is precieved as a bloated and inefficient management structure.

I guess only time will tell. However I do know that 2003 will be a VERY interesting year given that DJ are making profits that GD can only dream of, in a market of which he controls 75%!

Big E
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Old 29th Jan 2003, 03:17
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"However I do know that 2003 will be a VERY interesting year given that DJ are making profits that GD can only dream of, in a market of which he controls 75%!"

So will the DJ profits that "GD can only dream of'', translate into a wage increase for their staff? Or shall they continue to be screwed?

I hope the VB EBA will mean a big win for the pilots, otherwise it will be a VERY interesting year for ALL airline pilots!
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Old 1st Feb 2003, 01:32
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No question that Flt Ops has loads of massively overpaid admin staff who do very little and are dispensible.

Take for example 'The Gerbil' - who because of the fact we are an absentee workforce with personal issues effecting work handled by pilot fleet managers - does not furfill a typical HR role.

In fact, all he does in sign PCV's and car leases - basic clerical work.

He is paid $150,000 base plus a bonus of $70,000. This makes him better paid that most B767 capts, and definitely better paid then all DJ pilots, yet he produces nothing and does not add to the bottom line

I also hope the new GMFO bins the following:
  • Flt Ops HR - not required under our admin structure
  • 'Dr Goebbels' - The flt ops communication mamager - whose propaganda is ignored by the line crews, and whose sponsorship of the 'iNotes' project is a massive money wasting disaster
  • Most of cabin crew admin. A 'PDM' is on $100,000 per year, has no technical (or other) quals, and does not have the authority to action even basic administartive requests for cabin crew members.
  • APT project staff - 4 years and $3million later, nothing to show for this white elephant, except (again) a load of clerks in flt ops training making work for themselves

Invertedldgs - 'Black Prince' is new flt ops training mgr
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Old 1st Feb 2003, 15:52
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FartSock

Your comment smacks of a lot of agro wrt AIPA Committee members. These people give a a lot of their personal time to solve all the problems that you and your peers gripe about (and generally do an excellent job). As far as I know, history records that only one ex-AIPA COM member has taken a management position and your comments are totally inappropriate to the majority of your peers who sacrifice their time and money to improve your work conditions and lifestyle.

InvertedLandings,
An interesting appraisal of the QF Flight Ops politics - I think that you assesment of "mini-me" is probably correct. The Australian Airlines CP has publically stated that he is not a contender for the QF CP job, which leaves Dr Evil (too old), George Jetson (hopefully the board is not that blind), the Black Prince (his porfile has reduced somewhat) or the former AIPA President (who is obviously the best canditate but who also publically states that he is not a contender & besides why would he leave BrisVegas).

Interesting times ahead. GB
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Old 2nd Feb 2003, 11:19
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Now I'm confused. I always thought mini me was who we are obviously referring to as the Black Prince.

Someone needs to private message me the decodes!!
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Old 3rd Feb 2003, 00:21
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Question

I'm with Keg. It's all a bit too cryptic for me. I, too, would appreciate a crib sheet to sort out who is who.
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Old 3rd Feb 2003, 05:44
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Right.....

'Mini me' is so named because when he was the GM B767 his management style became very similar to the DCP - also known as 'Dr Evil'.

'Black Prince' earned his spurs during the era on the B767 where there was a 90% failure rate at command training. He had a hand in most of them.

Gotit?


As for the post critisising my view on AIPA - I do not dispute the time put in by COM members, just the results.

Having paid my membership fees for nearly 15yrs, all I have seen is my conditions go backwards and my quality of life destroyed by rostering.

Fixes to both have been available, but because these issues did not effect the -400 or most of the COM members there has been no interest in finding a fix.

rgs

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Old 3rd Feb 2003, 06:55
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Fartsock - 2 suggestions for you :

1. Run for the Committee
2. Leave AIPA and "go it alone "

If you're so unhappy.
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Old 3rd Feb 2003, 09:16
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Bags,

Been on comittee. I would therfore say I am well qualified to comment on it.

Anyhow, the issue here is not AIPA, but flt ops management.

I may have raised AIPA as a side bar in a previous post, but I would now ask we keep our collective eye on the main game, which is understanding how we are getting screwed whilst the managers are laughing all the way to the bonus bank.
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