NJS pulls out of Rockhampton
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ditzyboy,
You'll find that, with the new schedule, BNE to ROK, MKY and PPP will replace SYD to same; no new airframes needed.
(Can always hope tho')
Oops, SYD - PPP still on (weekends only it seems)
(edited after having actually read the schedule properly!)
You'll find that, with the new schedule, BNE to ROK, MKY and PPP will replace SYD to same; no new airframes needed.
(Can always hope tho')
Oops, SYD - PPP still on (weekends only it seems)
(edited after having actually read the schedule properly!)
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Have we got this thread sorted?
Anybody still in doubt?
The 717's performance on all routes beats the 146 hands down ...... reliability, cost, capacity and the legs. FACT!
That is why they are here to stay and are starting to replace the 146 routes.
The evil empire has spoken!
Anybody still in doubt?
The 717's performance on all routes beats the 146 hands down ...... reliability, cost, capacity and the legs. FACT!
That is why they are here to stay and are starting to replace the 146 routes.
The evil empire has spoken!
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Back to the Topic!
"Word is" that in a company weekly publication distributed recently the Queen Bee has made comment forcasting the future of NJS MKY base and stated its future as base looks very glim, possibly as early as next published schedule. So that would say all the guys and gals have until about Febuary/March to decide what they wish to do and think about thier options.
I've said it before and I'll say it again... it has always been the intentions of the Bid Rat to slowly introduce the 717's into regional routes currently flown by the 146 on the east coast and eliminate the contractor! Unfortunate...
I've said it before and I'll say it again... it has always been the intentions of the Bid Rat to slowly introduce the 717's into regional routes currently flown by the 146 on the east coast and eliminate the contractor! Unfortunate...
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Just the East Coast 24? If the performance of the B717 is superior to that of the BAe146 as Won tok would have us believe
can we not expect to see 717's on all former 146 routes once their current leases expire?
Just the East Coast 24? If the performance of the B717 is superior to that of the BAe146 as Won tok would have us believe
can we not expect to see 717's on all former 146 routes once their current leases expire?
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Given that QF said that they will be using all economy class B767s to OOL, that will free up a lot of B717s. i.e. there will a lot of new B717 services in the future. But in the mean time, it will be interesting to see what happens in the immediate future when the new sechedule (effective end of october) is released.
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MIss B.
Only can assume what might happen but the future don't look good for keeping all the east coast flying. Surely you have seen in your time the obvious movements and realise what is happening.
I'm sure NJS are very serious about continuing their relationship with QF, and after all why would they be into the process of a fleet replacement? (The Door man would love to be at home!)
It is only a matter of time before the new aircraft type is announced, you'd know how much work would go into the conversion program and what lay ahead for the various departments within
Has the day of NJS working the east coast gone?... I think not!... Expansion of crew numbers and facilities into BNE are a sign of things to come? Although I believe the majority of its flying will be done W & N of ASP. but wait till late next year to find out!
Only can assume what might happen but the future don't look good for keeping all the east coast flying. Surely you have seen in your time the obvious movements and realise what is happening.
I'm sure NJS are very serious about continuing their relationship with QF, and after all why would they be into the process of a fleet replacement? (The Door man would love to be at home!)
It is only a matter of time before the new aircraft type is announced, you'd know how much work would go into the conversion program and what lay ahead for the various departments within
Has the day of NJS working the east coast gone?... I think not!... Expansion of crew numbers and facilities into BNE are a sign of things to come? Although I believe the majority of its flying will be done W & N of ASP. but wait till late next year to find out!
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NJS are working towards a second AOC. As much as the company would like the employees to believe that there is nothing sinister in this, I can picture that NJS at some point (like when Qantas announce the addition of a new jet type such as the Embraer 170), will reinvent itself as an even lower cost operator using the new AOC with cheaper crews. Unless they do this there will be little to distinguish their cost structure from that of Airconnex.
Remember when Wazza tried to use a separate AOC to introduce the EMB145?
Remember when Wazza tried to use a separate AOC to introduce the EMB145?
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djembe56,
where is your info from? If it's from the QF site then I wouldn't believe just yet!!! The B717 and OOL schedules are a shambles!!! There are no where near enough flights to utilise the 14 strong B717 fleet, and the schedules don't even match up properly anyway!!! And the OOL schedules are just missing!!! I find it extraordinary, that these schedules run out in fewer than four weeks. If you wanted to book a seat to OOL with QF over the net for November, you wouldn't be able to get one. By the schedules they only have a couple of services a week (not even daily) from MEL, and a couple of 717s and a 737 from SYD! Are the all economy 767s going to be operational by the end of october?? Is that the equipment that will be used to OOL? Will any B717s remain on OOL? (especially the ADL-OOL? - it needs to rotate into the network via SYD remember.) What new B717 routes will open up? CBR?? Intra WA?? Red Centre?? QF have already said that they will "trim back" services to Tasmania, so there's extra sectors available there too! Or is the B717 fleet being reduced? By the article in the Australian Aviation magazine, I would have thought QF were pretty happy with them.
Does anyone have the faintest idea what is going on???
where is your info from? If it's from the QF site then I wouldn't believe just yet!!! The B717 and OOL schedules are a shambles!!! There are no where near enough flights to utilise the 14 strong B717 fleet, and the schedules don't even match up properly anyway!!! And the OOL schedules are just missing!!! I find it extraordinary, that these schedules run out in fewer than four weeks. If you wanted to book a seat to OOL with QF over the net for November, you wouldn't be able to get one. By the schedules they only have a couple of services a week (not even daily) from MEL, and a couple of 717s and a 737 from SYD! Are the all economy 767s going to be operational by the end of october?? Is that the equipment that will be used to OOL? Will any B717s remain on OOL? (especially the ADL-OOL? - it needs to rotate into the network via SYD remember.) What new B717 routes will open up? CBR?? Intra WA?? Red Centre?? QF have already said that they will "trim back" services to Tasmania, so there's extra sectors available there too! Or is the B717 fleet being reduced? By the article in the Australian Aviation magazine, I would have thought QF were pretty happy with them.
Does anyone have the faintest idea what is going on???
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The mystery route ...
Well, the mystery B717 route is MEL-OOL. 5 flights a day on the new schedule. Also, SYD-OOL has up to 9 flights a day (B717) plus some B737s in addition. BNE-MKY has 3 B146s daily, plus 1 B717 daily. Not sure about the Tassie services yet, (they still don't match up - either does the OOL-ADL!). But with DJ increasing Lst-Mel to 3 daily, and HBA-MEL to 2 daily, QF may be rethinking their trimming back plans to this state. So what a surprise, we all thought QF would be closing down the OOL base for the 717s, and it would appear OOL is expanding as a B717 destination!
OK folks, not sure if this should be started on this thread but it certainly relates to the closing of NJS bases.
In March next year Mackay will be closing.
Yes yes, reliable source etc etc.
In March next year Mackay will be closing.
Yes yes, reliable source etc etc.
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Yep! Mackay is closing!
The "Queen Bee" has announced that NJS will be closing Mackay as of March 2003, reducing services into Mackay by January 13th 2003.
Where to now for us!
Where to now for us!
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I do feel for you guys, despite the fact it may help some of my colleagues myself. I just hope with the Q enforced changes you are able to continue work in the Q system, job protection,as we all know Q has no problem with making people redundant