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Old 18th Feb 2024, 09:35
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Originally Posted by ddrwk
Why are you currently reading them more than 60 mins prior to departure?

If your EA sign on obligation is -60, don’t sign on until -60. Your union has already got that in the EA.
I do it more because I want to spend time getting coffee when I get there.
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Old 18th Feb 2024, 10:00
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Originally Posted by morno
I do it more because I want to spend time getting coffee when I get there.
And that’s fine if it works for you. I’ve no problem with that, but this guy was complaining about the company sending him a flight plan early and somehow he has NO choice BUT to look at it, regardless of whether or not he has actually signed on.

He then also claims that it’s the unions fault that he decides to start work early.

Unions derive their power from their members. And if members aren’t willing to ensure compliance with their own EA, what hope is there for any further advancement?

Unsurprisingly, it is generally these members who are the first to criticise the union for ‘not doing enough’.
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Old 19th Feb 2024, 02:33
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Sometimes it is the coffee, sometimes it is to make space for myself, after all, being a captain is about controlling the pace. However, I never derided any union. Individuals have the right to push back and maybe it wasn’t myself I was referring to but others who are less willing to rock the boat. Say for example, a new to the job First Officer trying to do the right thing. If 60 minutes is all that you require to read 448 NOTAMs, clear customs and security twice and do a preflight then good luck to you. I suspect though, that the company knows this is not really feasible and gets some free time by sending them out early. I also infer that this is the exact sort of thing the legislation was designed for, wouldn’t you think?
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Old 19th Feb 2024, 05:02
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Sign on at exactly -60 as rostered then take your time. If you leave late so be it. If the company whinges quote safety until they go away.
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Old 19th Feb 2024, 08:31
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The scheduled time of departure is just that.

Yep, I'd strive to achieve that but pre-flight is a dynamic environment. If we were a couple of minutes late through ensuring that we were as well prepared as possible then so be it. Rush a briefing….not happening. Spend a minute checking the late returned tech-log….so be it. Rushing to maintain schedule will very rarely make the operation better or safer but it could well do the opposite.

Whilst I was occasionally asked "why the delay", I do not recall ever being sanctioned over the same.
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