Jetstar and taxi lights
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Wing light comes on when ready to taxi, to 10,000 HAA, and then 10,000 HAA to approaching the gate. It's company policy. More lights the better, it's all about being seen.
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Really ACMS? How on earth do you drive at night? Every car has their headlights on, facing you. How precious could you be. I bet there are things you do that people think you’re an inconsiderate ****** for, but don’t post it on PPRune. Nobody does everything you want them to do, and the opposite is also true. I just wish pilots in this country would grow the F#$k up. It’s so pathetic.
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Vehicle design rules and road rules prohibit headlights shining into the eyes of oncoming drivers. Car lens technology is very sophisticated these days, as are the systems on board cars to enable adjustment of beam angles.
It’s an offence to ‘dazzle’ another driver with your headlights.
It’s an offence to ‘dazzle’ another driver with your headlights.
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I think lights must affect different pilots differently. I’ve never been bothered by the Qantas lights policy or an opposite taxi light, hardly even notice it so I suspect some people are more sensitive to bright light.
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Megan, make sure it’s blue and white wire to main beam and blue and red wire to dipped beam. Don’t make em like that any more (probably a good thing 🫤. )
Mission accomplished!
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How can you be blinded by lights 10nm away? Should pilots also turn off their landing lights before they reach the runway threshold so that they don't blind traffic holding short?
So glad I am not flying in aus.
when two aircraft are hittin the holding point from opposite directions, it has always been common sense and polite to turn off your taxi lights while awaiting take off. When cleared for take off I avoid, turning on the lights til I’m passed facing directly to the folk opposite me.
when two aircraft are hittin the holding point from opposite directions, it has always been common sense and polite to turn off your taxi lights while awaiting take off. When cleared for take off I avoid, turning on the lights til I’m passed facing directly to the folk opposite me.
Yes IFALPA did put out a policy for wing lights on on taxi. And if that's their justification (which I have seen in various times here over the years) the devil is in the detail - that QF ignores it seems (based on multiple reports).
And as for Jetstar’s reported edict about not to turn taxi/ turnoff lights off ever.. More devil in the detail in the same report.
and the impact of external light use on others must always be considered.
Note 2: …. consider turning taxi and runway turn off lights off when stopped, yielding, or as a consideration to other pilots or ground personnel.
Note 3: Runway turn-off and taxi lights should always be ON during taxi. Outside the runway they may be temporarily switched off to avoid the blinding or dazzling effect, they should always be used when crossing a runway.
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Yes, there is advice about turning lights off to avoid dazzle, but it’s not talking about wing lights.
I can not understand how people are being dazzled by wing lights unless they are trying to be. Do we need a warning on the sun not to stare at it or turn off the flood lights on the apron as pilots can’t help themselves but stare at the bright light.
I operate from Qantas terminals, surrounded by Qantas aircraft obeying their light policy and have never been remotely dazzled by a wing light.
I operate from Qantas terminals, surrounded by Qantas aircraft obeying their light policy and have never been remotely dazzled by a wing light.
Turn the bloody things off or don't turn them off. Use idle reverse on each landing or don't use it but as PIC don't go hiding behind the SOPs as though you don't have any choice as to how the aeroplane under your command is operated. I am not advocating wholesale disregard of the SOPs but you are being paid to think about how you operate and how that can impact on others. If you are too afraid to turn off a taxi light because a particular Check Captain might tell you off then you have abrogated your responsibility to voices in your head. No one I know has ever been stood down for turning the taxi light off as a courtesy to another aircraft.
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Agreed.
On that note I’d request the moderator to lock the thread.
I,ve made my point and had my question answered.
Happy New Year everyone, fly safe.
On that note I’d request the moderator to lock the thread.
I,ve made my point and had my question answered.
Happy New Year everyone, fly safe.
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Wait…..if we’re going to lock this one we need to start another thread equally as inane, something where we can astound each other with our pedantry for two or three days before Lookleft comes in and reminds us what’s what.
May I suggest headset usage as a topic? Specific which ear should be uncovered when? Can you tell I’m stuck in a hotel room?
Happy New Year
May I suggest headset usage as a topic? Specific which ear should be uncovered when? Can you tell I’m stuck in a hotel room?
Happy New Year
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Last edited by KRUSTY 34; 1st Jan 2024 at 09:27.
Fly safe,
B-757
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