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Old 8th Feb 2024, 00:17
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Is that the same response he gave to the senate inquiry?

Not sure why people expect Alan to do any work for the Boards he sits on, evidently Board positions are for peacocks.
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I see that Justice A Hatcher is the boss of the Fair Work Commission.
Question;
When a whole tonne of politicians and Judges had to fess up to accepting special treatment from Qantas in the Chairman’s Lounge last year, was he one of them? Is there a way of finding out if he is receiving free Lobster from the company that his organisation will be making a declaration on shortly?
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Shane, I said use the Qantas frequent flyer points to go to Austria not f#cking Australia.

Next time we travel let the one in the household with airline experience, do the smart stuff with our travel arrangements! I will avoid Qantas at any cost, clapped out old airframes, bad management, delays, lost baggage and not to mention the groupies that frequent the chairman’s club.

Even that new airline, Banga have got newer planes than the QF.

Australia a third world country, we should have stayed in Ireland.


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Try as I might, I can't hear the strident voices of certain Senators calling for Mr Joyce AC to front the Senate Committee. Am I going deaf?
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With reference to the previous post by Lead Balloon;

Just quite possibly I have missed something (not unusual for me...) but I seem to remember quite some time back, reading that AJ had been ordered to return to Australia to appear before some Senate enquiry, and that there were dire consequences in store if he failed to do so!

All that seems to have gone extremely quite. I wonder why?
I posted the above (Post #858) back on the 26th of January.

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I remember the same, Pinky.

There is enough cynicism in me to believe that Joyce will not be called before any enquiry and the Pollies of all parties will desperately hope that the whole thing fades into obscurity. Why??

Because there will be quite enough fault/dirt to be spread over everyone!!
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Originally Posted by Pinky the pilot
There is enough cynicism in me to believe that Joyce will not be called before any enquiry and the Pollies of all parties will desperately hope that the whole thing fades into obscurity. Why??
Because they'd lose their Chairman's Lounge invitations.
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If there was ever a time for our representative bodies to be overtly pressuring government to drag Alan to the senate, it would be now while hatred for him is high amongst the travelling public. Alas, I don’t hear them doing it either.
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Old 11th Feb 2024, 21:01
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
Try as I might, I can't hear the strident voices of certain Senators calling for Mr Joyce AC to front the Senate Committee. Am I going deaf?
The most significant impediment to having Joyce front the Senate Committee is that the relevant committee, the Select Committee on Commonwealth Bilateral Air Service Agreements, was wound up at the end of the term specified in their Terms of Reference back in early October last year. There is presently no committee or sub-committee of the Senate with relevant terms of reference to call on him to appear.
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The Senate could, of course, resolve to establish another Select Committee with new Terms of Reference.
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
The Senate could, of course, resolve to establish another Select Committee with new Terms of Reference.
They could. How do you think that would go? The Senate wouldn't agree to extend the term of the Bilateral Air Service Agreements Select Committee when the Chair requested it last year.
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Because they'd lose their Chairman's Lounge invitations.
Oh of course!! I forgot about that. Thanks Chronic Snoozer.

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They could. How do you think that would go? The Senate wouldn't agree to extend the term of the Bilateral Air Service Agreements Select Committee when the Chair requested it last year.
As always, it depends on the principle politics.
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Senator McKenzie is bailing up the Minister representing, on the issue of Mr Joyce AC, in Estimates now.
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Supply chain issues means we don’t have any maintenance available of our own because we haven’t trained any apprentices and we let to many engineers go during Covid but we will dress that up and call it supply chain issues. I think incompetence is better.

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Qantas backflips on Aussie couple after flight schedule bungled trip

Paul and Ann Hansen turned to The Daily Telegraph after Qantas ruined their dream US holiday by cancelling their flights from Sydney after they had spent thousands on hotels and travel in America. Here’s what happened.
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February 19, 2024 - 5:00AM

Passengers who have their flights delayed or cancelled could soon be compensated. The Coalition wants to fast-track a bill through the Senate which could compel airlines to refund passengers for delays and set out their obligations to customers more clearly. The bill would require majority support in the Senate and the House of Representatives. More passengers have had longer wait times for replacement flights since before the pandemic. Qantas has hired a second consultancy firm to improve its issues with delays and cancellations in a bid to repair its reputation as the national carrier.As it prepares to defend court action brought by the consumer cops over cancelled flights, Qantas has belatedly untangled a mess it made of a couple’s “once in a lifetime” trip when it moved them to dates that suited the airline better.
In September last year, Paul and Ann Hansen used Frequent Flyer points saved over many years to book return business class flights from Sydney directly to San Francisco, departing in July.
They then bought internal US flights, cruises, accommodation and tours to fit.
But two weeks ago, they received the email that has come to frustrate so many Australian travellers – the one from Qantas Customer Service advising of “important changes” to a booking.
Qantas had moved the dates of departure and return.Paul and Ann Hansen had their plans for a ‘once in a lifetime trip’ thrown into chaos after a flight cancellation from Qantas. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Martin Ollman“We rang Qantas to say this won’t work as we have other travel booked,” Mr Hansen said.
Qantas said there were no longer any Frequent Flyer seats available on the original dates. Their options were to agree to the changes or cancel.
In seeking The Daily Telegraph’s help, an exasperated Mr Hansen said: “What is the point of booking 10 months in advance to secure your very limited Frequent Flyer seat if Qantas won’t honour the booking? It is essentially worthless.”
Mrs Hansen said Qantas’ decision to change the dates was “going to cost us money.” She noted that if she and her husband had tried to change the dates, Qantas would have made them pay extra.
Qantas is under intense scrutiny over why it cancels flights, including from the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission.
In August last year the ACCC launched Federal Court action against the Flying Kangaroo, with chair Gina Cass-Gottlieb saying: “We allege that Qantas made many … cancellations for reasons that were within its control, such as network optimisation including in response to shifts in consumer demand, route withdrawals or retention of takeoff and landing slots at certain airports.”Gina Cass-Gottlieb, the chair of the ACCC. Picture: Aaron Francis / The AustralianIn response to questions from The Telegraph, a Qantas spokesman said the Hansens’ flights were cancelled because of “supply chain delays impacting scheduled maintenance of some aircraft.
“We understand the inconvenience that schedule changes can cause and we have been in contact with the Hansens to re-accommodate them on an earlier flight.”
The Hansens’ trip will now be two days longer. Qantas has provided an “accommodation allowance”.
“This means we can meet our existing tour and internal flights, and aren’t out of pocket for the additional accommodation,” Mr Hansen said. “It’s just ridiculous that Qantas couldn’t come to this conclusion on their own.”The Hansens’ trip is back on track, but it’ll be two days’ longer than they planned. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Martin OllmanThe Hansens’ trip will now be two days longer. Qantas has provided an “accommodation allowance”.
“This means we can meet our existing tour and internal flights, and aren’t out of pocket for the additional accommodation,” Mr Hansen said. “It’s just ridiculous that Qantas couldn’t come to this conclusion on their own.”
The ACCC’s misleading and deceptive conduct proceedings against Qantas are due to return to court on February 28 for a case management hearing.
The commission has chosen to focus its attack on allegations that the airline kept on selling seats on cancelled flights.
In its defence document, Qantas claims the parts of consumer law the ACCC accuses it of breaking do not apply because the airline did not supply customers with carriage on a “particular flight”, but rather “a bundle of contractual rights”.
Qantas said the bundle was consistent with its “promise to do its best to get consumers where they want to be on time” but “expressly excluded any guarantee of flight times”.

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Old 20th Feb 2024, 01:21
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Supply chain issues means we don’t have any maintenance available of our own because we haven’t trained any apprentices and we let to many engineers go during Covid but we will dress that up and call it supply chain issues. I think incompetence is better.

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Qantas backflips on Aussie couple after flight schedule bungled trip

Paul and Ann Hansen turned to The Daily Telegraph after Qantas ruined their dream US holiday by cancelling their flights from Sydney after they had spent thousands on hotels and travel in America. Here’s what happened.
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February 19, 2024 - 5:00AM

Passengers who have their flights delayed or cancelled could soon be compensated. The Coalition wants to fast-track a bill through the Senate which could compel airlines to refund passengers for delays and set out their obligations to customers more clearly. The bill would require majority support in the Senate and the House of Representatives. More passengers have had longer wait times for replacement flights since before the pandemic. Qantas has hired a second consultancy firm to improve its issues with delays and cancellations in a bid to repair its reputation as the national carrier.As it prepares to defend court action brought by the consumer cops over cancelled flights, Qantas has belatedly untangled a mess it made of a couple’s “once in a lifetime” trip when it moved them to dates that suited the airline better.
In September last year, Paul and Ann Hansen used Frequent Flyer points saved over many years to book return business class flights from Sydney directly to San Francisco, departing in July.
They then bought internal US flights, cruises, accommodation and tours to fit.
But two weeks ago, they received the email that has come to frustrate so many Australian travellers – the one from Qantas Customer Service advising of “important changes” to a booking.
Qantas had moved the dates of departure and return.Paul and Ann Hansen had their plans for a ‘once in a lifetime trip’ thrown into chaos after a flight cancellation from Qantas. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Martin Ollman“We rang Qantas to say this won’t work as we have other travel booked,” Mr Hansen said.
Qantas said there were no longer any Frequent Flyer seats available on the original dates. Their options were to agree to the changes or cancel.
In seeking The Daily Telegraph’s help, an exasperated Mr Hansen said: “What is the point of booking 10 months in advance to secure your very limited Frequent Flyer seat if Qantas won’t honour the booking? It is essentially worthless.”
Mrs Hansen said Qantas’ decision to change the dates was “going to cost us money.” She noted that if she and her husband had tried to change the dates, Qantas would have made them pay extra.
Qantas is under intense scrutiny over why it cancels flights, including from the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission.
In August last year the ACCC launched Federal Court action against the Flying Kangaroo, with chair Gina Cass-Gottlieb saying: “We allege that Qantas made many … cancellations for reasons that were within its control, such as network optimisation including in response to shifts in consumer demand, route withdrawals or retention of takeoff and landing slots at certain airports.”Gina Cass-Gottlieb, the chair of the ACCC. Picture: Aaron Francis / The AustralianIn response to questions from The Telegraph, a Qantas spokesman said the Hansens’ flights were cancelled because of “supply chain delays impacting scheduled maintenance of some aircraft.
“We understand the inconvenience that schedule changes can cause and we have been in contact with the Hansens to re-accommodate them on an earlier flight.”
The Hansens’ trip will now be two days longer. Qantas has provided an “accommodation allowance”.
“This means we can meet our existing tour and internal flights, and aren’t out of pocket for the additional accommodation,” Mr Hansen said. “It’s just ridiculous that Qantas couldn’t come to this conclusion on their own.”The Hansens’ trip is back on track, but it’ll be two days’ longer than they planned. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Martin OllmanThe Hansens’ trip will now be two days longer. Qantas has provided an “accommodation allowance”.
“This means we can meet our existing tour and internal flights, and aren’t out of pocket for the additional accommodation,” Mr Hansen said. “It’s just ridiculous that Qantas couldn’t come to this conclusion on their own.”
The ACCC’s misleading and deceptive conduct proceedings against Qantas are due to return to court on February 28 for a case management hearing.
The commission has chosen to focus its attack on allegations that the airline kept on selling seats on cancelled flights.
In its defence document, Qantas claims the parts of consumer law the ACCC accuses it of breaking do not apply because the airline did not supply customers with carriage on a “particular flight”, but rather “a bundle of contractual rights”.
Qantas said the bundle was consistent with its “promise to do its best to get consumers where they want to be on time” but “expressly excluded any guarantee of flight times”.
When things go well Qantas executives take the credit and the bonuses; when things go wrong, it is always someone else's fault. No wonder they have gone from one of the most admired Australian companies to one of the most despised.
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Former Qantas CEO Alan Joyce to renovate his Sydney apartment in The Rocks

Former Qantas boss Alan Joyce has put the problems of his turbulent departure from the national carrier behind him and is embarking on spectacular renovations to his luxury harbour view pad in The Rocks.
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Former Qantas CEO Alan Joyce has resigned as the Sydney Theatre Company chair. He was due to return to his role at the end of February following four months of leave but said the current challenges facing the company required significant time in the role.Former Qantas boss Alan Joyce has put the problems of his turbulent departure from the national carrier behind him and is embarking on some home renovations.
Mr Joyce, 57, and husband Shane Lloyd have lodged plans to amalgamate their two apartments below the top-floor penthouse in the iconic Harry Seidler building in The Rocks.
The plans will allow for sweeping views of the Opera House and harbour from an enormous 100 sqm of balcony space that will be funded from the $125 million he earned during his 15 years leading the national carrier. His final year alone saw him trouser $21.4 million.
Over his 15-year-term piloting Qantas, Mr Joyce also secured a whopping $28 million in bonuses.
The former chief executive officer of the flying kangaroo abruptly quit last year as the airline was hit with allegations it had sold tickets to more than 8000 flights it had already cancelled and refused to drop airfares or hand back jobkeeper subsidies despite a record $2.47 billion profit.Alan Joyce and Shane Lloyd. Picture: Dylan RobinsonThe iconic Harry Seidler building in The Rocks.Mr Joyce fled to Ireland to take care of his sick mother and only returned to Sydney last month after a Senate Inquiry into the blocking of flights from Qatar Airways he had been ordered to front upon his return fizzled out.
In January Mr Joyce also resigned as chair of the Sydney Theatre Company but since returning to the Harbour City he has continued his love of the arts with a trip to the opening night of & Juliet at the Lyric Theatre at The Star last week.
Now he and Mr Lloyd have submitted plans with the City of Sydney Council for works costing $2.97m to put together the two apartments in The Cove building on Harrington Street and make retirement a little more bearable.
They have called the 2003-built complex their home since 2008 when they paid $4,575,000 for half of the 42nd floor of the 43-floor building. The apartment addition cost them $9.25m last April. The view from Mr Joyce’s apartment in The Rocks.Mr Joyce’s current apartment in The Rocks.For a time the couple were proposing to upsize to a $19m, 1908 Arts and Craft style mansion they bought in Mosman in 2022. However, they jumped at the opportunity when the neighbouring apartment was listed.
“We were unexpectedly given the opportunity to secure the other half-level apartment where we live currently,” Mr Joyce said at the time.Mr Joyce purchased the adjoining apartment last year.Pictures: suppliedThey then promptly sold the Mosman home for $21m without ever living in it, last July.
The Cox Architecture plans are to knock through the two three-bedroom apartments to create a 450 sqm, five-bedroom apartment with 100 sqm balcony space. Alan Joyce takes his dog for a walk in Sydney. Picture: 2GBThe five bedrooms are being pushed to the southern side of the apartment. The master bedroom will have a walk-in wardrobe, ensuite, and one of the four balconies.
The open plan living, dining and kitchen will be located on the northern side of the apartment which has better views of the Opera House.

Central to the space will be a kitchen, flanked by a formal lounge to the west and a media lounge to the east.
The couple also have a Palm Beach weekender with five bedrooms and five bathrooms that overlooks Whale Beach and cost $5.25 million in 2015.
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Imagine getting illegally sacked with 1700 of your hard working colleagues, then having to struggle to even put food on the table for your wife and kids - all the meanwhile, knowing your family’s forced spiral into financial despair has funded him joining a few $10m penthouse apartments together.

It’s abhorrent and morally repugnant.
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Even his dog can’t bear to look at him.
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Former Qantas CEO Alan Joyce to renovate his Sydney apartment in The Rocks

Former Qantas boss Alan Joyce has put the problems of his turbulent departure from the national carrier behind him and is embarking on spectacular renovations to his luxury harbour view pad in The Rocks.
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March 14, 2024 - 3:14PM

Pictures: suppliedThey then promptly sold the Mosman home for $21m without ever living in it, last July.
Looks like it's been styled in "Classic Travelodge"
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They then promptly sold the Mosman home for $21m without ever living in it, last July.
You know you’re financially secure when even a real-estate misstep nets you 2 mil in 2 years!
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