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Rambo,
Seems to me that all you can think about is the money, or the cheap flights around the world. What ever happened to the love of flying?? Or did you lose that along the bitter road you are on?
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Seems to me that all you can think about is the money, or the cheap flights around the world. What ever happened to the love of flying?? Or did you lose that along the bitter road you are on?
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Sylvester ''Rambo'' Stallone
You seem so full of yourself...so prissy!! Are you man, or kitten?
Tone it down buddy, what a stinky attitude. You remind me a snotty kid at school that sticks out his tongue, to prove you're better than everyone else.
At the end of the day Stallone, you DON'T own the company, you AREN'T better than anyone else, and you're just as fly on the wall to the guys in qantas......
Babe the difference between Virgin and Qantas..Virgin treat staff individually as humans. They set time out to listen to what we have to say and encourage opinion, whereas with Qantas, you are a little person thats recognised like a bar code.
Look around you, if staff need to strike for reason they won't lower the airconditioning temperature in their terminals for comfort...whats that showing you!!
I rest my case....now you can remove that bandana thats affecting the brain...maybe too tight Rambo???
You seem so full of yourself...so prissy!! Are you man, or kitten?
Tone it down buddy, what a stinky attitude. You remind me a snotty kid at school that sticks out his tongue, to prove you're better than everyone else.
At the end of the day Stallone, you DON'T own the company, you AREN'T better than anyone else, and you're just as fly on the wall to the guys in qantas......
Babe the difference between Virgin and Qantas..Virgin treat staff individually as humans. They set time out to listen to what we have to say and encourage opinion, whereas with Qantas, you are a little person thats recognised like a bar code.
Look around you, if staff need to strike for reason they won't lower the airconditioning temperature in their terminals for comfort...whats that showing you!!
I rest my case....now you can remove that bandana thats affecting the brain...maybe too tight Rambo???
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I'm with Capt Snooze on this one.
Rambo might be a walking Samboy's packet but I suspect on further reflection that he is winding us all up just a touch.
Well done, mate. It worked.
Now you've gone from being a twit to just being a silly little man.
P.S - Does Centrelink have lambswool seat covers in the waiting room?
Rambo might be a walking Samboy's packet but I suspect on further reflection that he is winding us all up just a touch.
Well done, mate. It worked.
Now you've gone from being a twit to just being a silly little man.
P.S - Does Centrelink have lambswool seat covers in the waiting room?
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.....P.S - Does Centrelink have lambswool seat covers in the waiting room?.........
Loved that last comment 2daddies
I think Rambo man is taking us on a joy ride, or he's simply genetically modified
Either way i think the bandana has ceased the flow of oxygen to the brain.....loosen it boy!!!
Loved that last comment 2daddies
I think Rambo man is taking us on a joy ride, or he's simply genetically modified
Either way i think the bandana has ceased the flow of oxygen to the brain.....loosen it boy!!!
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Ramboflyer,
You are a disgrace for the aviation industrie, people like you don't deserve a single chance. Let me ask you something mate, does your daddy or mummy work for QF??????
Best Regards,
Pedro
You are a disgrace for the aviation industrie, people like you don't deserve a single chance. Let me ask you something mate, does your daddy or mummy work for QF??????
Best Regards,
Pedro
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Out of interest and I direct this question to pilots already working for Virgin Blue, what would be your attitude or feelings towards an English pilot gaining employment with you albeit that one has the right of abode in Australia and has a 737 rating.
Is this realistic and have you got any English pilots working for you at the present time.
Dont all shoot me at once.
Is this realistic and have you got any English pilots working for you at the present time.
Dont all shoot me at once.
short flights long nights
Well if he IS for real, it proves all my thoughts about QF recruitment policies and all their testing
This is embarresing, I just hope no one form the general public is reading this thread, makes pilots look like children squabbling in the sand pit.
Woomera, can you delete this whole thread.
Woomera, can you delete this whole thread.
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Amazon,
If you hold right of residency and an Australian commercial then you are just as eleigible to be considered as anybody else. Indeed, to be rejected solely on the basis of your ethnic origin would be illegal. Perusing Pprune gives some idea of the number of people who have done the reverse, using their European right of residency to gain employment in Europe, possibly to the detriment of a lesser experienced local. (I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS WRONG!)
As to the opinions of the VB recruiters, I couldn't possibly comment.
Good luck.
PS ever stayed at the thistle?
If you hold right of residency and an Australian commercial then you are just as eleigible to be considered as anybody else. Indeed, to be rejected solely on the basis of your ethnic origin would be illegal. Perusing Pprune gives some idea of the number of people who have done the reverse, using their European right of residency to gain employment in Europe, possibly to the detriment of a lesser experienced local. (I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS WRONG!)
As to the opinions of the VB recruiters, I couldn't possibly comment.
Good luck.
PS ever stayed at the thistle?
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Why should all the bitching be behind the cockpit door open it up, you are all human afterall .
According to OZGRADE 3 the pilot is the closest thing to a robot.
VB dudes you are being exploited you cant deny that, and i really hope you take a stand in the future.
To Amazon why the hell would you want to work here when Ryanair pay about 4-5 times as much as VB....
Can i have your passport if you get a job here.
I would love to go on a date with the exotic temptress, i bet she could teach me a thing or two, she has great command potential if she isnt one already and i mean this sincerely.
Actually i have a cousin in QF , i dont think its fair either but if you had thousands of applications on your desk and only a few jobs availiable how else can you pick who to interview, its unreasonable but it makes sense and it keeps the already employed guys happy knowing they helped somebody.
Virgin as we are told love to treat there people well as this is really there only reward , unlike the Qf people who are treated with $$$$ . Now what human wouldnt want the second choice.....
p.s. no swearing please!
According to OZGRADE 3 the pilot is the closest thing to a robot.
VB dudes you are being exploited you cant deny that, and i really hope you take a stand in the future.
To Amazon why the hell would you want to work here when Ryanair pay about 4-5 times as much as VB....
Can i have your passport if you get a job here.
I would love to go on a date with the exotic temptress, i bet she could teach me a thing or two, she has great command potential if she isnt one already and i mean this sincerely.
Actually i have a cousin in QF , i dont think its fair either but if you had thousands of applications on your desk and only a few jobs availiable how else can you pick who to interview, its unreasonable but it makes sense and it keeps the already employed guys happy knowing they helped somebody.
Virgin as we are told love to treat there people well as this is really there only reward , unlike the Qf people who are treated with $$$$ . Now what human wouldnt want the second choice.....
p.s. no swearing please!
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Anyone heard the rumour (I heard it from a DJ flight crew yesterday) that DJ have had their ETOPS application knocked back after a year's preparation?
Apparently NZ will be via Norfolk to avoid ETOPS requirements.
Apparently NZ will be via Norfolk to avoid ETOPS requirements.
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Rambo the wind up merchant!
Rambo, you nearly had me in the boat, but your name rang a bell and I did some investigating. Remember this post of yours on the 15th August on the CX management-running scared thread?
3 Holer stopped you in your tracks on that one but you managed to get a few bites this time! I think you must have too much time on your hands mate? Good luck with getting a job, you need one to keep you busy!
Shallow dudes
Its easy for you people to kick the Ansett guys while they are down, the 89ers have probably got more of the jobs than the pilots who had nothing to do with 89 explain that.
Also why dont you ever mention the QF (TAA) scabs who got into QF without having HSC and didnt have to do the Psyche tests Qantas is full of them and they are the same guys who screwed you with the Australian tax office but you would rather give it to the AN guys who are mostly innocent and cant get a job not even with Virgin B.
Its easy for you people to kick the Ansett guys while they are down, the 89ers have probably got more of the jobs than the pilots who had nothing to do with 89 explain that.
Also why dont you ever mention the QF (TAA) scabs who got into QF without having HSC and didnt have to do the Psyche tests Qantas is full of them and they are the same guys who screwed you with the Australian tax office but you would rather give it to the AN guys who are mostly innocent and cant get a job not even with Virgin B.
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I think you will find that the rumour is not entirely correct. There is a matter of record keeping over a period of time by the engineering department on certain aspects of ETOPS inspections of our aircraft to show we have a record of reliability in our fleet, or something like that. I'm not clear on just what all this entails. Anyway the maintenance program was in place but the records need to be compiled accordingly and so the approval will take some more time until they have been completed. By all other accounts the application process is well on track. There is sure to be an ETOPS expert here somewhere that can expand on this.
I think you will find that the rumour is not entirely correct. There is a matter of record keeping over a period of time by the engineering department on certain aspects of ETOPS inspections of our aircraft to show we have a record of reliability in our fleet, or something like that. I'm not clear on just what all this entails. Anyway the maintenance program was in place but the records need to be compiled accordingly and so the approval will take some more time until they have been completed. By all other accounts the application process is well on track. There is sure to be an ETOPS expert here somewhere that can expand on this.
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Since when did this thread become a slanging match between a group of professionals ( Or are we?? ) sharing a common love of aviaton??
Rambo dude, you obviously dont agree with VBs pay and work conditions and honestly I dont think I am the only one who is a little tired of hearing the whining.
It seems that there are those who love Virgin for the vibe, atmosphere and equality - I too love the fact that we are a young company open to change. And management DO welcome our ideas. They may not always be implemented but we have a voice.
And then there are those who are using Virgin to their advantage as a stepping stone. Whatever your reason lets not trash a company that in many aspects is leading the way in aviation in OZ.
Criticism is always good, name and company slanging I dont agree with...
Lets not forget we are all fortunate to be where we are and in my opinion, long live the love of wanting to go to work rather than being miserable and having a high pay packet to compensate.
Rambo dude, you obviously dont agree with VBs pay and work conditions and honestly I dont think I am the only one who is a little tired of hearing the whining.
It seems that there are those who love Virgin for the vibe, atmosphere and equality - I too love the fact that we are a young company open to change. And management DO welcome our ideas. They may not always be implemented but we have a voice.
And then there are those who are using Virgin to their advantage as a stepping stone. Whatever your reason lets not trash a company that in many aspects is leading the way in aviation in OZ.
Criticism is always good, name and company slanging I dont agree with...
Lets not forget we are all fortunate to be where we are and in my opinion, long live the love of wanting to go to work rather than being miserable and having a high pay packet to compensate.
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APACAU
You are correct re the ETOPS approval but the reason is that DJ simply have not got a reliability program for their aircraft at present. I believe the answer to that question during the recent CASA audit was' A WHAT program?' There is also the matter of the being of an appropriate modification status for ETOPS.
Couple that with the fact they have pilots doing a large percentage of their transit inspections and there not being enough appropriately qualified LAMEs on the Line to carry out ETOPS preflights it's going to be a long time before they get an approval - unless they go to CASAs " Approvals 'R'Us " office in Brisbane.
Heard from a LAME in a Southern port a month or so back about a crew shooting there mouth off about flying an ETOPS route at that time - without a liferaft aboard let alone CASA approval!
And as far as the thread is concerned even if Rambo is having a lend of us, there are very few at DJ with the balls to stand up to them. You can smell the desperation on some of the pro DJ postings
And as for Exotic Temptress, she obviuosly hasn't been privy to some of the overt threats made on Engineers by Virgin for putting in CAIR reports or repoting incidents directly to CASA. As far as we are concerned, Virgin treat there engineers like sh!t but then again - we've never been seen as warm and fuzzy by the politically correct HR brigade.
You are correct re the ETOPS approval but the reason is that DJ simply have not got a reliability program for their aircraft at present. I believe the answer to that question during the recent CASA audit was' A WHAT program?' There is also the matter of the being of an appropriate modification status for ETOPS.
Couple that with the fact they have pilots doing a large percentage of their transit inspections and there not being enough appropriately qualified LAMEs on the Line to carry out ETOPS preflights it's going to be a long time before they get an approval - unless they go to CASAs " Approvals 'R'Us " office in Brisbane.
Heard from a LAME in a Southern port a month or so back about a crew shooting there mouth off about flying an ETOPS route at that time - without a liferaft aboard let alone CASA approval!
And as far as the thread is concerned even if Rambo is having a lend of us, there are very few at DJ with the balls to stand up to them. You can smell the desperation on some of the pro DJ postings
And as for Exotic Temptress, she obviuosly hasn't been privy to some of the overt threats made on Engineers by Virgin for putting in CAIR reports or repoting incidents directly to CASA. As far as we are concerned, Virgin treat there engineers like sh!t but then again - we've never been seen as warm and fuzzy by the politically correct HR brigade.
