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Old 14th May 2023, 11:52
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some company called AV8 Partners is advertising these positions. Seems like low time for the 737

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How is 1000 PIC on jet >40t not enough. Flying a freighter on the east coast isn’t exactly rocket science.
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Old 14th May 2023, 23:48
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Low by Aussie standards, but there have been 3000hr jet Captains in Europe for decades- and they seem to get by!
It's a lot more important to drill down on WHAT those 3000hr were. By the ad they could be 2800 Barron hours and a bare type rating.

Where was the ad?
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Originally Posted by Jimsaviation
How is 1000 PIC on jet >40t not enough. Flying a freighter on the east coast isn’t exactly rocket science.
I tend to agree with this sentiment. Having operated throughout five continents, Australia is by far one of the easiest. No significant terrain, Proficient ATC, reliable Nav-Aids, and accurate WX reports. One has to wonder how Aussies’ claim to be such superior aviators.

Wizz give 320 commands to kids with 3,500 TT and their network is much more demanding than anything close to Australia.

Typical inferiority complex, in over complicating a simple thing to justify one’s superiority.
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Old 15th May 2023, 22:07
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No mention of Cessna 400 series time requirement or previous wet season experience!
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No mention of Cessna 400 series time requirement or previous wet season experience!
Well let’s be honest. Sitting in a 737 going from ILS to ILS probably requires less skill.
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No mention of Cessna 400 series time requirement or previous wet season experience!
If they do, I’m in with a chance then!
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Originally Posted by TBL Warrior
I tend to agree with this sentiment. Having operated throughout five continents, Australia is by far one of the easiest. No significant terrain, Proficient ATC, reliable Nav-Aids, and accurate WX reports. One has to wonder how Aussies’ claim to be such superior aviators.

Wizz give 320 commands to kids with 3,500 TT and their network is much more demanding than anything close to Australia.

Typical inferiority complex, in over complicating a simple thing to justify one’s superiority.
Proficient ATC and accurate weather reports are no longer the norm since covid. KPI seeking managers in the respective organisations gutted the experience levels during covid with ill thought out redundancies which has turned the aviation landscape into a shxtshow.
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Proficient ATC and accurate weather reports are no longer the norm since covid. KPI seeking managers in the respective organisations gutted the experience levels during covid with ill thought out redundancies which has turned the aviation landscape into a shxtshow.
maybe but it’s all relative.
Oz ATC still don’t clear you to 2000’ instead of 12000’ radar terrain as happened to me not that long ago. Took two queries to fix it.
I’ve only flown to 40 countries and agree with above - Aus is comparatively benign.
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Oz ATC still don’t clear you to 2000’ instead of 12000’ radar terrain as happened to me not that long ago. Took two queries to fix it.
Please explain!
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On a STAR starting at 18ish. Ends at 2000’. Huge CB half way along. Request 30 deg right that does take us towards rather high terrain (10k+). Get cleared right of route (no heading or distance limit).
I presume old mate forgets we’re on heading and clears us to 2000’. Query one in case we both misheard, “affirm 2000”. “Confirm cleared level due terrain?” Without missing a beat “Descend 12000 report when clear of weather and can track direct to ILS”
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Originally Posted by rcoight
Well let’s be honest. Sitting in a 737 going from ILS to ILS probably requires less skill.
Having flown 402s full of cancelled checks and FedEx overload without a functional autopilot and with +- deice in the winter across northern Minnesota/Wisconsin in the middle of the night, I am inclined to agree with you….
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Originally Posted by TBL Warrior
I tend to agree with this sentiment. Having operated throughout five continents, Australia is by far one of the easiest. No significant terrain, Proficient ATC, reliable Nav-Aids, and accurate WX reports. One has to wonder how Aussies’ claim to be such superior aviators.

Wizz give 320 commands to kids with 3,500 TT and their network is much more demanding than anything close to Australia.

Typical inferiority complex, in over complicating a simple thing to justify one’s superiority.

"accurate weather reports" 🤣🤣🤣
You havnt flown in Aus for a while obviously!
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Old 16th May 2023, 21:23
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"accurate weather reports" 🤣🤣🤣
You havnt flown in Aus for a while obviously!
TIBA much? Good ATC system? Half baked ctafs

Facilities? Not a cat3 every 50nm with thousands of cancellations with the winter weather

neither require a space shuttle Endo however
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Old 16th May 2023, 22:23
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Flying in Australia

Originally Posted by TBL Warrior
I tend to agree with this sentiment. Having operated throughout five continents, Australia is by far one of the easiest. No significant terrain, Proficient ATC, reliable Nav-Aids, and accurate WX reports. One has to wonder how Aussies’ claim to be such superior aviators.

Wizz give 320 commands to kids with 3,500 TT and their network is much more demanding than anything close to Australia.

Typical inferiority complex, in over complicating a simple thing to justify one’s superiority.
I have not met an Australian pilot in a long time who thinks we’re superior. I’m not sure what you’re on about there. Having trained pilots for a dozen airlines from 4 continents, I got a good look at the types of people who learn to fly from different countries. That was certainly an eye opener and led me to never flying on certain carriers.
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I have not met an Australian pilot in a long time who thinks we’re superior.
​​​​​​​You don't get out much do you?
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Old 17th May 2023, 10:49
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Proficient ATC….are you serious? I’m not going to bag the actual controllers but Ujung Control tends to be more reliable than Airservices ATM.
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Admittedly, I haven't flown in Asia, South America, the Pacific nor southern Africa, but from memory, Australian ATC is generally significantly better than most other places that I've flown in. Rate of delivery, use of standard phraseology and accuracy are generally better.
Naples on a stormy afternoon or any of the Greek island ATC on a Summer's day = carnage. Anywhere south of Florida to the Caribbean on January 2nd is an absolute nightmare.
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Old 17th May 2023, 13:46
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You don't get out much do you?
I do and would say that that generation of ozatranaughts is retiring or retired.
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Bloody heck.
(Nearly) Every trip I fly in the upper Midwest from September to May is hardball IFR. Most of them are pretty much in the clag from takeoff to landing (with ice, of course) as they are less than 300 NM and it makes no sense to climb to the flight levels in a turbo piston twin. The rest of the year we have thunderstorms to avoid.
People need to learn to fly.

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