QF refuelling at Melbourne from an A380????
News is reporting AJ has sent a fully fuelled 380 to Melbourne to refuel planes from during the refueller pay strike.
I doubt this is even physically possible, but if it was, who’s equipment are they going to use and who is going to do it?
You would have to have some qual to refuel an airliner, Kevin from catering isn’t going to do it.
those who know, is this the biggest BS story of the century from mainstream media?
I’ll bet QF has no plane to plane refuelling chapter in their ops manual!
did some $hit for brains see a 380 landing and assume it was a tanker!
I doubt this is even physically possible, but if it was, who’s equipment are they going to use and who is going to do it?
You would have to have some qual to refuel an airliner, Kevin from catering isn’t going to do it.
those who know, is this the biggest BS story of the century from mainstream media?
I’ll bet QF has no plane to plane refuelling chapter in their ops manual!
did some $hit for brains see a 380 landing and assume it was a tanker!
Not hard to do?? Depending exactly where on airport they were parked, those hoses would need to be rather long and a considerable amount of coordination (and time) required. I mean it's not like you can use just any old hoses and any old scissor-lift to get up there.. so no, it's extremely hard to do (safely).
Not hard to do?? Depending exactly where on airport they were parked, those hoses would need to be rather long and a considerable amount of coordination (and time) required. I mean it's not like you can use just any old scissor-lift to get up there, so no, it's extremely hard to do (safely).
With a little bit of planning this would be a doddle for any AMO to manage. It's not rocket science. You may be interested to know it is also possible to recover an aircraft with an inop APU from a remote port by using the bleed air from a second aircraft by use of a long bleed air hose.
Cathay has done it before as well.
All legit, fuel can be used in the same company aircraft no problem.
They parked the 380 on a remote stand and refueled 737’s, A320F’s and A330’s.
Easy peezie.
All legit, fuel can be used in the same company aircraft no problem.
They parked the 380 on a remote stand and refueled 737’s, A320F’s and A330’s.
Easy peezie.
Not hard to do?? Depending exactly where on airport they were parked, those hoses would need to be rather long and a considerable amount of coordination (and time) required. I mean it's not like you can use just any old hoses and any old scissor-lift to get up there.. so no, it's extremely hard to do (safely).
As far as using 'any old scissor lift' as you seem to suggest you are again way off the mark.
Scissor lifts,thats APPROVED ones,are used for many tasks around the airport every day of the week & used safely.
Maybe think about how apu work on a large aircraft(787,747,a330,a380) is done.....yes,u got it,on an approved scissor lift & with safety always 1st priority.
The national carrier flew VH-OQL, fully fuelled, from Sydney to Melbourne on Tuesday to help fill up smaller aircraft. The superjumbo has yet to fly a single commercial flight post-COVID.
Not unless they landed well over MLW. The 380 will hold about 240T "fully fuelled" thus at an empty weight of roughly 290T, it would have departed Sydney at 530T in that event. At most it would burn 25-30T so would be landing at 500T or about 110T over MLW.
As previously mentioned, they'd have been happy to have 100T on board after landing at MLW.
As far as using 'any old scissor lift' as you seem to suggest you are again way off the mark.
Scissor lifts,thats APPROVED ones,are used for many tasks around the airport every day of the week & used safely.
Maybe think about how apu work on a large aircraft(787,747,a330,a380) is done.....yes,u got it,on an approved scissor lift & with safety always 1st priority.
Scissor lifts,thats APPROVED ones,are used for many tasks around the airport every day of the week & used safely.
Maybe think about how apu work on a large aircraft(787,747,a330,a380) is done.....yes,u got it,on an approved scissor lift & with safety always 1st priority.
Fortunately a few critical people made sure there were no issues with fuel supply, so they didn't need to use the A380 anyway.
Working on an apu doesn't require (a) finding a couple of CAO 20.9-compliant scissor lifts just lying around on apron somewhere and (b) hauling special-purpose extra-long 3" heavy-duty fuel transfer hoses across the tarmac and up in the air (they're extremely bloody heavy with fuel in them, you know?).. but, yeah sure, I get it. Safety 1st always.
Fortunately a few critical people made sure there were no issues with fuel supply, so they didn't need to use the A380 anyway.
Fortunately a few critical people made sure there were no issues with fuel supply, so they didn't need to use the A380 anyway.
Better not follow that 1🙊
Working on an apu doesn't require (a) finding a couple of CAO 20.9-compliant scissor lifts just lying around on apron somewhere and (b) hauling special-purpose extra-long 3" heavy-duty fuel transfer hoses across the tarmac and up in the air (they're extremely bloody heavy with fuel in them, you know?).. but, yeah sure, I get it. Safety 1st always.
Fortunately a few critical people made sure there were no issues with fuel supply, so they didn't need to use the A380 anyway.
Fortunately a few critical people made sure there were no issues with fuel supply, so they didn't need to use the A380 anyway.
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Regards scissor lifts, they are either diesel engine driving hydraulics or battery motor hydraulics, neither of which I would be happy to station under a refueling panel whilst connecting/dis hoses, manual steps, giraffe or passenger yes, hoses walked up or hoisted with ropes.