AKL - MEL routing?

[Glorified Dus Briver]

Anyone know what's happening with this routing? I can't sleep at night...

[tossbag]

mmm, that would be block of closed airspace. But don't worry, the block that is closed tonight will be open tomorrow, and the block that is open tonight will be closed tomorrow.

120 controllers given redundancy, genius CEO work.

[VHOED191006]

Originally Posted by tossbag

mmm, that would be block of closed airspace. But don't worry, the block that is closed tonight will be open tomorrow, and the block that is open tonight will be closed tomorrow.

120 controllers given redundancy, genius CEO work.

They remain a master strategist.

[AerocatS2A]

Originally Posted by tossbag

mmm, that would be block of closed airspace. But don't worry, the block that is closed tonight will be open tomorrow, and the block that is open tonight will be closed tomorrow.

120 controllers given redundancy, genius CEO work.

Is that a fact? Other aircraft appear to be flying direct. To me it looks like a non-EDTO route.

[Beer Baron]

Could also be due to non-ETOPS. Head up toward Norfolk Island to bridge the gap to the east coast of Oz.
(Aerocat beat me to it)

[MK 4A Tank]

Airwork Non-EDTO compliant therefore you have to route within 60 mins Norfolk Island.

[Ollie Onion]

Non-Edto, I believe they lost ETOPS certification due to Boeing revoking the rubber stamp for any cargo conversions done by an outside provider,

[tossbag]

Is that a fact?

Well, no. it was a sarcastic comment. I'm known for my heavy use of sarcasm.

[AerocatS2A]

Originally Posted by tossbag

Well, no. it was a sarcastic comment. I'm known for my heavy use of sarcasm.

It can be difficult to tell.

[decoder]

Makes you wonder how Airwork will do once there are a couple of new freight operator's in NZ.

[MK 4A Tank]

Poorly and their OTP is appalling.

[josephfeatherweight]

How does EDTO apply to freight?

[By George]

EDTO applies to Freighters the same as passenger Ops.

As for on time performance, I don't think anybody at the moment should start a bragging contest. On the 23rd of December it took me 15 hours to get home MEL to BNE with Virgin. VA323 cancelled, rerouted via VA837 to SYD (delayed by hours), re-booked VA957, cancelled after four delays and finally home on VA2351 (delayed). You can walk home on crutches quicker than that.

[Glorified Dus Briver]

Looks like they lost ETOPS cert. a few days ago. Here is the same route from January 21st;

[Capt Fathom]

It’s possible that due to an MEL, that ETOPs wasn’t available for that flight. It returned to AKL later that day via a ‘direct’ route.

[packapoo]

[QUOTE=decoder;11373941]Makes you wonder how Airwork will do once there are a couple of new freight operator's in NZ.[/QUOTE

Really? Timeline on that bit of pie in the sky?

[Zinfandel]

https://www.texelair.com

These guys registered an NZ company in August last year.

[tiger-palm]

I maybe wrong, but I understand all non Boeing converted freighters (BCF) will have the same issue re : EDTO - regardless of operator.

[Ollie Onion]

Correct, Boeing did an audit on ALL Boeing Converted Freighters and then removed the EDTO certification for ANY conversions done by anyone but Boeing.

[zanzibar]

[QUOTE]and then removed the EDTO certification for ANY conversions done by anyone but Boeing.[QUOTE]

When did that allegedly happen? Can you supply a reference as I cannot find one anywhere and several non-Boeing converted 73’s conducted EDTO flights this past week.