Torres Air Accident Monday 3rd October
The ASN link in post 4 now has a 7news clip on YouTube. Shows a little bit of wreckage and supposedly the plane in flight without engine power, and chat with a couple of the passengers who mention black smoke coming from an engine.
Anyone know the history of this airframe? Over the years some the same islanders seem to go from one operator to another when one ceases Ops.
not suggesting anything by it, idle curiosity only.
Anyone know the history of this airframe? Over the years some the same islanders seem to go from one operator to another when one ceases Ops.
not suggesting anything by it, idle curiosity only.
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And...The Average high frequency hearing loss from those who have flown one... 65DB
.. and those of us who flew them thought the Dart (F27, AW650, HS748, etc) was bad.
.. and those of us who flew them thought the Dart (F27, AW650, HS748, etc) was bad.
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Lacking Nomad time are we ?
I never poled one that I can recall, but I spent some time hanging on in the back as ballast for flight test work (he may have had his faults but Stuart certainly could make the beastie sit up and beg) and in the RHS as the flight test writer-downer of things. At the time of the latter work, I was flying the F27 and wouldn't have thought the Nomad was anywhere near as noisy as the Fokker ?
Actually, through the fog of time, I vaguely recall that the noise was due to the pressurisation blower ... the joys of getting progressively younger ....
Would you guys speak up....
Pass, friend.
I never poled one that I can recall, but I spent some time hanging on in the back as ballast for flight test work (he may have had his faults but Stuart certainly could make the beastie sit up and beg) and in the RHS as the flight test writer-downer of things. At the time of the latter work, I was flying the F27 and wouldn't have thought the Nomad was anywhere near as noisy as the Fokker ?
Actually, through the fog of time, I vaguely recall that the noise was due to the pressurisation blower ... the joys of getting progressively younger ....
Would you guys speak up....
Pass, friend.
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I have a few pics also of this however when I try and load from my iPhone 13 the pictures load to about 50% then it fails! Is there an easy way to load pics
thanks in advance
thanks in advance
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Is there an easy way to load pics
Difficult to say without being able to see what is happening. However, my first guess would be that the file resolution is too high. You might try resampling to a lower resolution and see how that goes ?
800 pixels or thereabouts seems to work OK.
Difficult to say without being able to see what is happening. However, my first guess would be that the file resolution is too high. You might try resampling to a lower resolution and see how that goes ?
800 pixels or thereabouts seems to work OK.
Blueocean, save it into your Pictures folder on the Mac, then drag it onto your desktop. Load it from there. A bit convoluted but it works.
https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...R199400698.PDF
Accident report from 1994 in Weipa. Did this BN2 have tip tanks?
Accident report from 1994 in Weipa. Did this BN2 have tip tanks?
It sounds fuel-related to me. Maybe water in the tanks?? It's been somewhat damp up there of late.
ATSB has opened the case: https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...r/ao-2022-046/
It sounds fuel-related to me. Maybe water in the tanks?? It's been somewhat damp up there of late.
It sounds fuel-related to me. Maybe water in the tanks?? It's been somewhat damp up there of late.
Agree. It likely would have been fuelled from drums - Jet drums are usually black to minimise the chances of mixing - but it could just as easily have been old stock Avgas containing who-knows-what. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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It would definitely have been refuelled by the Air BP fuel truck at Horn Island after it's morning flight.
A great outcome with no loss of life or serious injury. What a terrible predicament to be in, a double engine failure scenario. In the Channel 7 video here, https://www.facebook.com/torresshire, you can hear the engines cutting in and out. It certainly sounds like a fuel related issue, but to have both engines go at the same time is a little implausible? Maybe one was already shut down at this time, the recording sounds like a high power setting, certainly not a cruise RPM?
Having to commit to a double engine feather and glide approach to land would take some discipline and quick thinking; also something that cannot be trained for safely. The aircraft landed within about five miles from Kubin airstrip. As I stated in post #7, airspeed and ROD could have been handled better with maybe a different outcome.
Commiserations to the operator and the PIC.
A great outcome with no loss of life or serious injury. What a terrible predicament to be in, a double engine failure scenario. In the Channel 7 video here, https://www.facebook.com/torresshire, you can hear the engines cutting in and out. It certainly sounds like a fuel related issue, but to have both engines go at the same time is a little implausible? Maybe one was already shut down at this time, the recording sounds like a high power setting, certainly not a cruise RPM?
Having to commit to a double engine feather and glide approach to land would take some discipline and quick thinking; also something that cannot be trained for safely. The aircraft landed within about five miles from Kubin airstrip. As I stated in post #7, airspeed and ROD could have been handled better with maybe a different outcome.
Commiserations to the operator and the PIC.
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Anyone that's flown Navajos via the 'old ways' probably remembers running on Auxs and having to do the octopus shuffle when both fuel flow lights came on almost simultaneously. Then sometime later someone came up with the ingenious idea to time your fuel on auxs to avoid surging. Not saying that's anything to do with this, but shows how two engines can suck resources at the same rate so that both come to the same end at a very similar location. The surging on the video does sound very fuel related though.
