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Old 17th Aug 2022, 12:50
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Originally Posted by Angle of Attack
I’ve been thinking about the Seniority system and agree it’s a noose around Pilots necks, it almost eliminates mobility and it extremely bad for bargaining power. It’s a Catch 22 though as to remove the seniority system there would be cries of anger from the senior pilots. I’m in a seniority system, but me and the missus have agreed I’m Gonski at 60 which is just over 10 years away, I’m going to leave QF at 55 and go the contracting jobs F them, and if it doesn’t work out so be it I have a UTE, tinny and a house, that will do me!
Except its actaully the junior pilots that miss out as the 'mates and mercenary brigade' take all of the senior/command positions.

Imagine a 'merit based' promotion system being transparent and limited in its ability to be abused. Ah huh....now back to reality.
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 19:51
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Originally Posted by Lapon
Except its actaully the junior pilots that miss out as the 'mates and mercenary brigade' take all of the senior/command positions.

Imagine a 'merit based' promotion system being transparent and limited in its ability to be abused. Ah huh....now back to reality.
How do you measure merit when you're all the same, except years of service and hours in the logbook. In a commercial airliner you all operate the same, that's the whole purpose of sops. If you are different you won't be there very long whether or not that happens to be a better different. For those that think offer more than just doing your job, then that becomes expected, that is the cause of the problem and you created it.

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Old 17th Aug 2022, 22:55
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Originally Posted by Angle of Attack
I have a UTE, tinny and a house, that will do me!
This side of the ditch, that's known as "The Three Bs (Beach house, BMW & Boat)" and also as the The Death of Entrepreneurship.
Very many small business owners think and act like "I've got the 3 Bs, why work hard any more?"
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 23:56
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Originally Posted by Xeptu
How do you measure merit when you're all the same, except years of service and hours in the logbook. In a commercial airliner you all operate the same, that's the whole purpose of sops. If you are different you won't be there very long whether or not that happens to be a better different. For those that think offer more than just doing your job, then that becomes expected, that is the cause of the problem and you created it.
You might have misunderstood my sacrastic tone. Im all for seniorty for the reason that it provides transparency.
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Old 18th Aug 2022, 04:50
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Alliance were never great payers going back to the Flight West days. Not a bad job if you want to move off turbo props and get some jet time, or you'd already got cashed up overseas and wanted to come home, but it wasn't a great long term career option.
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Old 18th Aug 2022, 07:31
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Has the crewing problem got anything to do with pilot not being advertised on their careers page or seek? I'm no HR whizz, but advertising is usually a solid start point.

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Old 18th Aug 2022, 07:43
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Originally Posted by Gligg
Has the crewing problem got anything to do with pilot not being advertised on their careers page or seek? I'm no HR whizz, but advertising is usually a solid start point.
I was just thinking the same thing the other day. They don’t seem in much of a rush to get guys interested in joining. There’s also dozens of pilots who live in Darwin, half of which are already EJET rated, the other half multi crew experienced who have been blocked from even applying.
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Old 18th Aug 2022, 10:31
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Originally Posted by XanaduX
I'm guessing it might have something to do with a training backlog? Perhaps short of sim trainers, sims and sim slots? Just a guess.
Probably true, but every operator has that problem currently!
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Old 18th Aug 2022, 21:54
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Originally Posted by IAW
My money is on Work From Home.

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That's probably not as crazy as it sounds. My era of pilots would have rolled the eyeballs and chuckled 20 years ago, I'm not doing that today.
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