REX SAAB Issue?

[puff]

Originally Posted by RENURPP

The oldest aircraft operate by QF in the fleets

717 - oldest 21 years the youngest 16 years. Retirement of the B717 has already begun.
A330 - 16 years. On 141 airlines operating this type of aircraft Qantas ranks 121
B737 - 15 years. On 294 airlines operating this type of aircraft Qantas ranks 179

VH-QPA is 19.5 years old
VH-EBA is 20.5 years old
VH-VXA is 21.3 years old
VH-YQX is 23.4 years old.

Think your figures were averages Renurpp.

[43Inches]

Originally Posted by Deano969

I have never understood why aircraft manufacturers or trying to electrify commercial aircraft as the big drawback is the weight
Toyota are going all in on hydrogen combustion vehicles and state they get the same range from 5 or so litres of compressed hydrogen as 60 litres of petrol
Even factoring the weight of heavier tanks, wouldn't a hydrogen powered commercial jet or prop be a better way to go whilst being even greener ?

If you are following development at present numerous prototypes are in play. Electric, hybrid electric, bio fuel, hydrogen both combustion and fuel cell. The Dornier 328 mentioned above is being certified initially for both AVTUR and Biofuel using the PW 127 XT, however they are playing with hydrogen options as well. There is a Dash-8 program playing with hydrogen combustion and a few others. NASA is playing with a hybrid electric SAAB 340B so many programs are going ahead.

The sooner they electrify the better, the more fuel left for me to burn in the Ram.

Unfortunately as supply winds down due to lack of demand the economy of scale will wind down with it, meaning you may be paying infinitely more for a liter of refined fossil fuel. It will probably get to the stage you are better off making it yourself as only essential commercial operators will get subsidies.

There is a myth that AVGAS is a money maker for the refineries, it's quite the opposite, the majority of cash is made on the staple products at small markups due to mass production. AVGAS has higher margins plastered on it to make it's production worthwhile, but it's so limited run its hardly a blip of the cash made from ULP and other products.

[Ladloy]

No one going to mention KDK having a battery fire?

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Originally Posted by Ladloy

No one going to mention KDK having a battery fire?

Was it a battery fire? I've seen pics on the news and nothing tell tale about what it was. Apart from being in the general area of the batteries, as well as other stuff. One thing to note is that the fire was relatively contained and the hull survived with local damage only from the look of it. I know a number of other aircraft types would have burnt to the ground with a mid fuselage fire. SAAB batteries are also outside the pressure hull and this looks like an internal fire.

[Ladloy]

Originally Posted by 43Inches

Was it a battery fire? I've seen pics on the news and nothing tell tale about what it was. Apart from being in the general area of the batteries, as well as other stuff. One thing to note is that the fire was relatively contained and the hull survived with local damage only from the look of it. I know a number of other aircraft types would have burnt to the ground with a mid fuselage fire. SAAB batteries are also outside the pressure hull and this looks like an internal fire.

From what I've heard the pilots couldn't see anything in the cockpit. The Pelair freighters don't have any contracts any more and are shortly to be sold off. The only thing it was carrying was engiNe parts to rescue a WT which had shut an engine down in QLD.

[43Inches]

Originally Posted by Ladloy

From what I've heard the pilots couldn't see anything in the cockpit. The Pelair freighters don't have any contracts any more and are shortly to be sold off. The only thing it was carrying was engiNe parts to rescue a WT which had shut an engine down in QLD.

Something amiss with the right bleed/ACM could do that, pump smoke to the forward cabin, and it is vented under the right wing. Well handled if it was heavy smoke, from the pictures it could be repaired and fly again, probably better off on a pole somewhere though, it must be getting close to worth the sum of it's metal content. I haven't heard anything about the incident except what's on the news, so could be a number of electrical things in that wing root.

[Ladloy]

Originally Posted by 43Inches

Something amiss with the right bleed/ACM could do that, pump smoke to the forward cabin, and it is vented under the right wing. Well handled if it was heavy smoke, from the pictures it could be repaired and fly again, probably better off on a pole somewhere though, it must be getting close to worth the sum of it's metal content. I haven't heard anything about the incident except what's on the news, so could be a number of electrical things in that wing root.

Whatever the cause it's a terrible scenario and hopefully the ATSB get involved so we get a real investigation into it. Rex are great at cover ups.

[unobtanium]

exploited overworked and underpaid pilot's engineer's leaving the company is not a labor shortage is a self kick in the nut's and the only have theirselves to blame!

[dejapoo]

Originally Posted by Ladloy

Whatever the cause it's a terrible scenario and hopefully the ATSB get involved so we get a real investigation into it. Rex are great at cover ups.

Mildly defamatory. I despise them as much as the next but be careful lad ! LKH spies everywhere... even in the lunch room at KrAPPA

[Ladloy]

Originally Posted by dejapoo

Mildly defamatory. I despise them as much as the next but be careful lad ! LKH spies everywhere... even in the lunch room at KrAPPA

I don't work for them anymore. Couldn't care less.

I'd love to know why things like the Griffith 4wd event had never been reported to the ATSB but other, much smaller events that didn't include management pilots made its way into a report.