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Old 12th Jul 2023, 01:09
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Originally Posted by morno
That’s assuming they get enough takers from the 737. Given it’s only 20 to begin with, good chance that a lot of crew will be happy to continue on the 737 for the time being.
Im assuming that the flying will be a mix of Sydney Melbourne Brisbane Perth with Asia over nights etc? If so can't see people that do open/ Over time to earn the $$ on the 737 rushing across. Can't be much overtime on offer spending half your life in hotel in Asia.
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Originally Posted by morno
That’s assuming they get enough takers from the 737. Given it’s only 20 to begin with, good chance that a lot of crew will be happy to continue on the 737 for the time being.
possibly. However there are also a lot of RHS to LHS changes happening who aren’t subject to a freeze, and who may wish to lock in a seat early on. Quite possible the commands will initially go to fairly junior crew.
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Originally Posted by cLeArIcE
Im assuming that the flying will be a mix of Sydney Melbourne Brisbane Perth with Asia over nights etc? If so can't see people that do open/ Over time to earn the $$ on the 737 rushing across. Can't be much overtime on offer spending half your life in hotel in Asia.
Min daily credit actually. Fluctuates but a smidg over 5 hrs credit a day atm
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[QUOTE=maggot;11465856]First 20 321s are slated domestic
Seems that over 65s will be 'allowed' on fleet since it's domestic. The regional configured jets will be additional to these and will do near Asia etc - meaning any over 65s will be automatically be given all the nice daylight domestic flying and the rest do all the BOC 2 crew QUOTE]

Nice daylight domestic flying hahaha.... omg what is that?
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First 20 321s are slated domestic
Seems that over 65s will be 'allowed' on fleet since it's domestic. The regional configured jets will be additional to these and will do near Asia etc - meaning any over 65s will be automatically be given all the nice daylight domestic flying and the rest do all the BOC 2 crew QUOTE]

Nice daylight domestic flying hahaha.... omg what is that?
Airbus, trunk routes, 1/2 legs to perf etc

Vs flying overnight, I'd take it.

My point is there will be a distorted bidding system with over 65s on that fleet unlike the 737 which has only a few restricted routes for the old farts
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Old 12th Jul 2023, 01:27
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Originally Posted by morno
That’s assuming they get enough takers from the 737. Given it’s only 20 to begin with, good chance that a lot of crew will be happy to continue on the 737 for the time being.
The amendment was written carefully for qf to minimise their training costs and establish the fleet where they want it. They'll manipulate the scenario to accomplish imo.
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Originally Posted by cloudsurfng
WB FO’s who think they are waiting for a 321 CMD could be in for a rude shock if they haven’t read the SHEA. I’m unsure when the variation went through so perhaps it was all a bit of an unknown when this post was made.

every 321 CMD and FO slot (apart from the management stooges and initial trainers) will be taken by a current 737 pilot.
This is almost certainly incorrect.
The only A321 slots that 737 pilots have priority over are Reserved Vacancies. Reserved Vacancies will be created when the company determine there will be a corresponding surplus on the 737 and vacancies on the A321. However, in the latest allocation, nearly 100 B737 pilots were awarded transfer into Long Haul, these future transfers will soak up the vast majority of any future 737 surplus. As such, there will be no need for a significant amount of Reserved Vacancies and these positions will be available for the most senior bidder.

Additionally, the company has indicated that the 737’s won’t be initially reduced 1:1 with incoming 321’s, there will be a net increase in airframes and training on a new type will proceed reductions in 737 establishment. This all means there is less likelihood of a large 737 surplus so less requirement for Reserved Vacancies.

That being said, anything is possible.
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