Will Australia ever have a good airline again?
I had a QF CN friend of mine being basically harassed and abused and threatened by BF staff in CNS airport arrivals because “he didn’t present the correct paperwork before the flight landed” a job that QF should have done whilst he was in flight. He pointed out he didn’t know what the paperwork was, it wasn’t his job to send it to BF in flight as he can’t. They didn’t care and told him that he could be personally fined and charged as the CN of the flight…….
Nothing friendly about them at all toward a crew that had just done CNS HKG CNS all night and not stepped off the Jet.
Who in the hell do they think they are?
Nothing friendly about them at all toward a crew that had just done CNS HKG CNS all night and not stepped off the Jet.
Who in the hell do they think they are?
The infrastructure can’t cope with the volume of travellers. Cheap fares are the problem. Halve the number of passengers and double or triple the ticket cost to keep passenger numbers down. Problem solved. Air travel should be a privilege not an entitlement.
Originally Posted by lucille
The infrastructure can’t cope with the volume of travellers. Cheap fares are the problem. Halve the number of passengers and double or triple the ticket cost to keep passenger numbers down. Problem solved. Air travel should be a privilege not an entitlement.
It’s not 1980 anymore pal.
Originally Posted by morno
And then you may as well halve the number of jobs!
It’s not 1980 anymore pal.
It’s not 1980 anymore pal.
Wish it was 1980.
Originally Posted by deja vu
Whatever, so now we have twice the jobs receiving half the money and no future.
Wish it was 1980.
Wish it was 1980.
Go back to 1980
I’ll tell you what, if you were receiving double the money than what we get now, for doing the same job, I’d call you overpaid and out of touch. Our jobs aren’t that difficult nor risky, that we need to be paid $400k a year.
Go back to 1980
Go back to 1980
Originally Posted by morno
And then you may as well halve the number of jobs!
It’s not 1980 anymore pal.
It’s not 1980 anymore pal.
Populations everywhere have almost doubled since 1980. Airfares as a percentage of average income are now some fraction of what they were then.
And one of the many reasons why airfares are so cheap? Airline Jobs per passenger have been more than halved since then.
Things are definitely not any better now for the passenger nor for the average airline industry employee.
Oh, I don't know, I was around in 1980, young, dumb and full of you know what. And there was not a chance of me being able to buy a ticket anywhere on an aircraft. It was something the elites did. Did more than one trip on the greyhound from Brisbane to Sydney, it's not something I'm keen to repeat, EVER. Anyone remember the Grafton bus crash that killed 21 people in '89? How about the Kempsey crash, also in '89. 35 dead.
Things are waaaaaay better now. But they could be even better, that would mean working together to make things better though, in Australia? Not a chance.
Things are waaaaaay better now. But they could be even better, that would mean working together to make things better though, in Australia? Not a chance.
Originally Posted by morno
I’ll tell you what, if you were receiving double the money than what we get now, for doing the same job, I’d call you overpaid and out of touch. Our jobs aren’t that difficult nor risky, that we need to be paid $400k a year.
Go back to 1980
Go back to 1980
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So qantas deploys 100 manager's to the frontline to help out the ground staff load bags, hand out snacks to angry passengers waiting in line at the dropoff bay's. seems like the company can spare 100 managers, who obviously counldn't of manage anything in the first place leading up to this mess.
Originally Posted by unobtanium
So qantas deploys 100 manager's to the frontline to help out the ground staff load bags, hand out snacks to angry passengers waiting in line at the dropoff bay's. seems like the company can spare 100 managers, who obviously counldn't of manage anything in the first place leading up to this mess.
Originally Posted by morno
I’ll tell you what, if you were receiving double the money than what we get now, for doing the same job, I’d call you overpaid and out of touch. Our jobs aren’t that difficult nor risky, that we need to be paid $400k a year.
Go back to 1980
Go back to 1980
Stop selling yourself short
Originally Posted by Transition Layer
Gee your post is an Airline Management wet dream. It’s not about whether the job is difficult or not, look at the bigger picture.
Stop selling yourself short
Stop selling yourself short
Management salaries are out of control, but it’s not unique to our industry. That could be a whole topic in itself and I don’t think you’re ever going to get anywhere with it.
Well good luck with that 
At least when it doesn’t happen, I won’t be surprised and my blood pressure won’t go through the roof like it will the angry and unrealistic.
I think you missed the part where I said I was all for reasonable and fair. But are we the only industry in the last 20 years that have the same problem? The whole country has had stagnant wage growth for years!
At least when it doesn’t happen, I won’t be surprised and my blood pressure won’t go through the roof like it will the angry and unrealistic.
I think you missed the part where I said I was all for reasonable and fair. But are we the only industry in the last 20 years that have the same problem? The whole country has had stagnant wage growth for years!
Originally Posted by morno
But are we the only industry in the last 20 years that have the same problem? The whole country has had stagnant wage growth for years!
P.S. wage stagnation is not what we have seen. In many industries there has been positive downward pressure on wages all while the true cost of living rises rapidly.
Originally Posted by gordonfvckingramsay
What’s your point? Just because it’s widespread doesn’t mean we just sit there and say “we’ll I guess that’s our lot it life”. If every industry is in the same boat and we all wait for other industries to push back, we will all stay in the same old vortex of reducing standards of living.
P.S. wage stagnation is not what we have seen. In many industries there has been positive downward pressure on wages all while the true cost of living rises rapidly.
P.S. wage stagnation is not what we have seen. In many industries there has been positive downward pressure on wages all while the true cost of living rises rapidly.
Originally Posted by SOPS
Thats correct. When during the border closure you heard industry leaders saying .. “ we need skilled immigrants”.. that’s code for… “ we need people who will work for less than a Australian worker.”
What is the median house price in Australia? Is that a realistic measure? The Valuers general has increased UCV of land. This has the effects of raising tax revenue… always. People from overseas seem to have the money to migrate here, buy a house, have a higher cost of living and take a job with below the salary they took for the same work overseas… many even get extra pension from the motherland! All to push aside someone here who asked for more for the same job.
That is taking advantage of a system.
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People from overseas seem to have the money to migrate here, buy a house, have a higher cost of living and take a job with below the salary they took for the same work overseas… many even get extra pension from the motherland! All to push aside someone here who asked for more for the same job.
