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Old 4th Jan 2022, 23:33
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Qantas pilots making errors after long periods without flying

Qantas is finding that pilots who have not flown for long periods due to the COVID-19 pandemic are making errors such as commencing take-off with the park brake on, and need more time for routine procedures.
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Old 4th Jan 2022, 23:45
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Canít get into too much trouble with the park brake on !
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Old 4th Jan 2022, 23:53
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A Boeing 787 aircraft was diverted back to Sydney 40 minutes into the flight after crew noticed that the landing gear had not been retracted prior to take off.
And you wonder why people question the whole C19 narravtive and 'facts'
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Originally Posted by Slugga View Post
A Boeing 787 aircraft was diverted back to Sydney 40 minutes into the flight after crew noticed that the landing gear had not been retracted prior to take off.'
Classic. Where is that quote from Slugga?
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Wouldn't they notice the extra drag/thrust required to taxi with the park brake on?
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Old 5th Jan 2022, 00:15
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom View Post
Classic. Where is that quote from Slugga?
The quote in the article linked to in the OP is this :

Last June, pilots of a Qantas 787 were unable to retract the planeís landing gear shortly after taking off from Sydney because two gear pins had not been removed before departure.


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Originally Posted by Octane View Post
Wouldn't they notice the extra drag/thrust required to taxi with the park brake on?
If you are not being humorous, I offer a brief scenario. The aircraft is at the runway holding point (park brake ON), is then cleared to line up on runway and hold, park brake OFF taxies into and holds in the lined up position (park brake ON), sometime thereafter the aircraft is cleared for take off, power is applied the pilot realises the park brake is ON which is released to OFF and the aircraft commences take off roll. (this recognition process takes @ 2 seconds). The article is really just starting the obvious, if you are not frequently operating a complex piece of machinery in a complex environment then you become "rusty" (less proficient). How quickly you regain proficiency depends on a number of factors e.g. the number of sectors you perform over a X period of time and what is your overall level of experience and your experience on the aircraft type.
Highly experienced pilots can make rookie errors purely because they are not current. There are rules set by the regulator regarding recency, operators may set additional requirements above the regulator's standard, it just depends on the calibre of the operator. (and the level of liability to the travelling public).
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Originally Posted by Torukmacto View Post
Canít get into too much trouble with the park brake on !

Did they leave it on after practicing hill starts.
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Originally Posted by T-Vasis View Post
making errors such as commencing take-off with the park brake on
Geez, I did this in the simulator a couple of weeks back. Didn't realize it was such a gross error that it justified getting making the news.......
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Old 5th Jan 2022, 05:37
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I know of at least one crew that forgot to lower the arrestor hook last week. Had to select afterburner for the go around.
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Old 5th Jan 2022, 06:11
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No doubt there were more complex errors identified, rightly so and shared with those who understand in the interest of safety! - but all the poor journos could recognise was leaving the park brake on and beating up a story - serious waste of space.
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I thought these things flew themselves! Turns out we are integral to the operationÖ.hoooooo knew?
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Old 5th Jan 2022, 06:21
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Moral of the story?

Donít put the park brake on when on the runway or donít read the SMH?

I canít decide
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Look, it happens all over the Universe...no biggie!

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Old 5th Jan 2022, 08:07
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Donít ride the clutchÖ.

If the crew let the clutch out too quickly, the Aircraft is at risk of stalling and dropping onto a school.


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Tonight on the regional Ch 9 news, the reader said it was a case of "Forgetting to take off with the park brake on."

Work-experience journalism at its best.
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Lets be honest with ourselves, at some point during everyone's career, we have all done this, its not big deal. Just makes for a more exciting ride for the PAX!

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Old 5th Jan 2022, 09:57
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It’s landing with the park brake on that causes some issues, just ask the Chinese A340 crew in SYD 16R years ago…….very short landing roll….
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Old 5th Jan 2022, 10:39
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Who teaches to set the park brake on when on the runway during a normal take-off? I learnt a big lesson once watching an aircraft cause several go-rounds because they set the park brake and then the bugger got stuck on, tower loves that call when an aircraft is now lodged on the threshold of the main runway because x-factor pilot is stuck with the park brake jammed. And if this is in the sim, most likely after an unrealistic reset/reposition where a pilot may make this mistake which has no bearing on real operations. The other thing is what modern airplane will not scream at you if you even tried to attempt to apply moderate thrust with the park brake on, unless QF has un-bunged some DC-8s from the bone yard for use.
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If you have operated at CAI you will have needed to use hill starts on some taxyways. I'm not joking!
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