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Old 17th May 2021, 08:04
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Virgin Australia’s chief executive has called for the country’s borders to be reopened before the stated goal of mid-2022, saying it made long-term sense even if “some people may die”.
Big business safety culture, makes me wonder what other risks she is willing to take in the name of profits.
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Old 17th May 2021, 11:10
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But if AJ made those comments he would be crucified. Its ok that JH does tho.
She is being crucified too!!
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Old 17th May 2021, 11:13
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This is JH through and through, when at Jetstar she always gave me the impression she was willing to sacrifice anyone else to achieve her own goals.
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Old 17th May 2021, 12:33
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She is being crucified too!!

Give me a break!

Only a Fvcking psycho willingly condemns another human to death in the name of profits.
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Old 17th May 2021, 22:22
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Originally Posted by SHVC View Post
But if AJ made those comments he would be crucified. Its ok that JH does tho.
I would also say Kudos to AJ.

the Aussie population needs to wake up and get vaccinated.

I bet many others want to say it but don’t have the kajones.
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Old 17th May 2021, 23:20
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I look forward to the government announcing, on advice from medical experts, prohibition of alcohol and tobacco, given the numbers of deaths they cause. Let's throw in driving, fishing from rocks - actually, fishing generally, swimming in the sea or rivers or anything involving a risk of death. There goes flying... Gambling causes enormous indirect damage. Let's prohibit that, too.

Politicians aren't 'allowed' to say it, but societies put a price on a life all day, every day, and tolerate death tolls in return for benefits - sometimes just in plain old tawdry dollars.

The road toll could be eliminated overnight, by prohibiting the use of the road system. We all know why that doesn't happen but, apparently, politicians aren't allowed to say that the benefits of an operating road system far outweigh the costs of the road toll.

Until words and numbers are put to how much we are willing to pay - not just in dollars - in return for saving X lives to C-19, the 'plan' is to wake up each day and make it up. I think that's what we call 'leadership' these days.
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Old 17th May 2021, 23:28
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Originally Posted by Global Aviator View Post
I would also say Kudos to AJ.

the Aussie population needs to wake up and get vaccinated.

I bet many others want to say it but don’t have the kajones.
I couldn’t agree more. We are now 16 months in and what do we have;
  • still closed and semi-closed borders
  • still a decimated global economy
  • still COVID infected people around the Country
  • 99% of people fully recover
  • vaccines that don’t fully protect you anyway
  • less than 1% of the words population affected
  • numerous doctors and medical experts now saying ‘let the virus run its course’
  • we have a virus that is not going to disappear no matter what we do
  • countries and states applying different rules and measures with no consistency whatsoever with governments making shit up on the run.
Due to the lockdowns and restrictions cancers have gone undetected, suicide rates are up, debt has increased, businesses have gone broke, people are unemployed and society has been badly damaged. That is not because of COVID, it is because of the knee jerk reaction to COVID by governments who panicked. The old saying of the ‘cure being worse than the disease’ comes to mind.

Where are the TV and media campaigns that could be applied to both COVID and the flu?? Things that remind you to stay home and away from shops, schools, work and large gatherings if you are sick? Wash your hands and wear a mask publicly if you are sick and you need to exit your home (the Japanese have done this for many decades and have set the bar). Get vaccinated with a proven and effective vaccine that has been thoroughly researched and works in the high percentages! Basic stuff but it contributes to reducing the virus. A new approach needs to be considered sooner than later and that approach needs to be pushed by a country or states citizens because if you leave it with the government to mitigate this issue our futures are going to be even more miserable.
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Old 17th May 2021, 23:39
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Yep, Brazil didn't have a knee jerk reaction...they are going great guns in terms of their economy and death rate as it turns out.
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Old 18th May 2021, 05:37
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Oz would have the lowest infection rate per 1000 population, and the lowest death rate from those infected. That is good.

The covid precautions of hand cleaning and social distancing mean that nobody I know has even had a flu, cold or sniffle since March last year. That is good.

Yes, it has been hard on the people, but how much of that was electioneering from the state premiers? Screams to open the QLD border to anybody north of Coffs (there were no reported cases north of Coffs) were met by "I will not be bullied by those Liberal people!" and she turned away people who were 4 km from the nearest hospital in Qld and made them travel hours to get to the next best emergency room. Cafes and restaurants could have been opened way earlier. Border guards sent home. But no. A state election was looming.
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Old 18th May 2021, 06:49
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JH comments now being seen as a PR nightmare by the advertising and PR industry: https://www.bandt.com.au/some-people...sial-comments/
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Old 18th May 2021, 07:07
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Going a little wild on Twitter at the moment. Many are calling for her resignation. She copped at absolute belting at the Oz Open speech so I guess she’s used to this sort of stuff.

Not much she can say to backtrack. She’s stuck with this one for the moment.
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Old 18th May 2021, 07:19
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She may be unlikabke etc but shes not wrong. Australia needs to suck it up and learn to live with it.
However no way will I consider any of the current vaccines avilable in Oz. Risker than the disease IMHO.
Its just a flu.
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Old 18th May 2021, 07:47
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It maybe just the flu to you, however more qualified ppl than you are treating it differently.

JH just had a trump moment, said what she was thinking which happens to be true and ppl just don't want to hear it because its not politically correct to be truthful
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Old 18th May 2021, 08:14
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If she is willing to let people die.. imagine how she will treat her own employees!
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Old 18th May 2021, 08:41
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https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....0093b7f956ce28

Flight Centre CEO is on board with Jayne.
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Old 18th May 2021, 09:54
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Welcome to Australia, the capital of outrage.
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Old 18th May 2021, 10:01
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If she is willing to let people die.. imagine how she will treat her own employees!

VA = Virus Airlines guaranteed to get you there dead or alive! That's "keeping the air fair...."
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Old 18th May 2021, 11:09
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It is like the French Revolution.. let them eat cake.

I earn millions.. if a few of the unwashed die.: as long as my bonus is ok .. let a few bodies mount up,, but keep my bonus coming in.
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Old 18th May 2021, 12:28
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I'm no fan of JH, but in this instance she's not wrong. Covid has exposed Australia as a hermit nation, populated by a disproportionate number of sissies who jump at their own shadows. What the hell is wrong with you people...?!? Previous generations lived with all manner of viruses and debilitating - even fatal - diseases for which there were no vaccines or cure. They didn't curl up in a foetal position and retreat to their designated safe space, they accepted that risk is a part of life and got on with living.



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Old 18th May 2021, 20:56
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Death and taxes.

People die, its a fact of life. None of us are living forever despite the best intentions of the medical profession. Get vaccinated, open the borders - stop dicking about like Australia is some kind of utopia of immortality. A bloke got pulled out of his boat and eaten by a crocodile near here recently. I haven't seen premiers banning boats or crocodiles yet.
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