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Old 20th Apr 2021, 08:38
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Originally Posted by Bleve View Post
....the infected worker was working in the RED zone. So there is no immediate concern for the GREEN zone and the 'bubble'.
But what about the concern around the contact with people outside of the workplace?
Guess time will tell ....
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 11:24
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God damnit, when are people going to use google and get some facts. It's that easy. Being vaccinated does not stop you getting a disease. Only a space suit will do that. But being vaccinated stops you getting really sick and stops you spreading the virus to others (your body can fight the virus better and it doesn't migrate to the upper respitory tract in huge numbers). The workers housemats/family have all come back negative. So the vaccine has done precisely what it said on the box.
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 21:11
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/ind...rs-on-same-day

Covid-19: Customs and Immigration NZ officers can process red and green zone passengers on same day
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 22:06
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Originally Posted by Keg View Post
1.5 million as at this morning.

The rest of your point is well made. It doesn’t help that the media have killed AZ in such a way that now even those aged 60+ are cancelling their appointments.
The media are guilty but what are the govt doing to encourage people to get the AZ jab?
They recently said they wanted everyone over 50 to get vaccinated,that is hilarious because i am over 60 & when i put my details into their system to see if i am eligible it tells me i have to wait till the next stage of the rollout.
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Old 22nd Apr 2021, 16:22
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Australians are now free to travel around the world. Simply catch a bubble flight to NZ, then hop on another flight to freedom. Just be warned, upon return to Australia you may face jail time or up to 63k in fines.
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Old 22nd Apr 2021, 22:28
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Originally Posted by halfmoon View Post
Australians are now free to travel around the world. Simply catch a bubble flight to NZ, then hop on another flight to freedom. Just be warned, upon return to Australia you may face jail time or up to 63k in fines.
If you have an onward booking from NZ you need an exemption but I see nothing stopping you from getting to NZ then booking an international flight the next day.
Provided you comply with the 72hr testing requirements and 14day quarantine on return, why would you face jail/fine? They only warn that return flights may be extremely difficult to get.


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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 00:37
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Originally Posted by Cafe City View Post
If you have an onward booking from NZ you need an exemption but I see nothing stopping you from getting to NZ then booking an international flight the next day.
Provided you comply with the 72hr testing requirements and 14day quarantine on return, why would you face jail/fine? They only warn that return flights may be extremely difficult to get.
If you have an exemption from the Austealuan border force then yes you are good for onward travel from NZ. However if you don't the NZ authorities can't stop you from leaving NZ to go elsewhere. Upon return to Australia you will face the consequences.
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 00:47
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Originally Posted by halfmoon View Post
If you have an exemption from the Austealuan border force then yes you are good for onward travel from NZ. However if you don't the NZ authorities can't stop you from leaving NZ to go elsewhere. Upon return to Australia you will face the consequences.
Says who??

From the Home Affairs website:
*Australian citizens and permanent residents will be required to apply for an outward travel exemption before travel to New Zealand if:
  • you have booked an onward flight from New Zealand to another overseas destination
Those who travel onwards from New Zealand to another international destination must be aware that returning to Australia or New Zealand is likely to be difficult because of the current restrictions on passenger numbers and the limited availability of flights.

Those who seek to travel from New Zealand to another international destination and then return to Australia will be required to:
  • present a negative COVID-19 test result taken up to 72 hours before departure to Australia
  • enter 14 days mandatory hotel quarantine on arrival at their own expense, and
  • be tested periodically while in mandatory quarantine.”

If you get to NZ then book an onwards flight, what law have you broken?
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 01:44
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Originally Posted by Cafe City View Post
If you get to NZ then book an onwards flight, what law have you broken?
To which country are you going to fly from NZ?
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 02:00
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Rumours suggest the Kiwi cleaners of flights coming from higher risk Covid destinations were also the same cleaners cleaning aircraft in the Tasman ‘bubble’. Net result is crew and passengers in isolation in Australia. You would have thought 12 months down the track this sort of basic stuff would have been considered and there’d be no crossover between those working the bubble and those working flights external to the bubble.
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 11:17
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Straya the prison island. Travel exemption makes me mad, if someone wants to leave why can’t they? Maybe sign a disclaimer saying yes I know it’s going to be an absolute clusterfook trying to get back but I’ll wear it.

If this latest round of C19 crapstick happening will Straya now really get serious about the jab?

AZ, Pfizer, whatever jab jab jab! Problem is a lot of Strayans don’t see the need. Until this changes to leave it will be prison break.

Ahh for the term of his natural life, Straya back to the prison island it started as.
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 11:28
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I feel the ones whinging about not being able to leave would be the loudest whining about how hard it is to get back.
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 19:20
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https://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...da4692e904c698

Very concerning....
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Old 24th Apr 2021, 08:00
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The bubble is truely stuffed!
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Old 24th Apr 2021, 10:22
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Originally Posted by halfmoon View Post
And we kid ourselves that we are “free”.

We should be ashamed of what we’ve become. Our forefathers who gave so much for this country would be disgusted.
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Old 24th Apr 2021, 20:38
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Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist View Post
And we kid ourselves that we are “free”.

We should be ashamed of what we’ve become. Our forefathers who gave so much for this country would be disgusted.

Or more than likely the ones who were alive during any of wars would say "Harden the **** up" or whatever thats period equivilent was
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Old 24th Apr 2021, 21:32
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"Harden the **** up" or whatever thats period equivilent was
I say old chap, I do believe it was: ‘Keep calm and carry on’.
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Old 25th Apr 2021, 21:44
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I wonder how many of the rolling 30+ thousand Australian stranded overseas considered a return via NZ?
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Old 26th Apr 2021, 00:27
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Originally Posted by C441 View Post
I wonder how many of the rolling 30+ thousand Australian stranded overseas considered a return via NZ?
Relatively few: only those who are NZ Citizens or Permanent Residents, nobody else has access to the NZ Managed Isolation & Quarantine [MIQ] / Hotel Quarantine system.
However there have been some. When we had an outbreak in an MIQ hotel, it was discovered that a number - a dozen or so IIRC - of people who had been isolated in that hotel couldn't be contacted for follow-up because they had already skipped to Australia. To somewhat mitigate this risk, Australia introduced a new rule that you couldn't access quarantine-free travel from NZ to Australia unless you had been in NZ for fourteen days after leaving MIQ.
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Old 28th Apr 2021, 10:03
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Originally Posted by zanthrus View Post
The bubble is truely stuffed!
🤔 🤔

Full bubble travel restored. Onwards and upwards
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