Eastern Strike
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From: Brisbane
Dougy,
EAA was planning on staging a stop-work on Wednesday in order to have all pilots present at an afternoon meeting to discuss pay, conditions and working hours (so I believe).
Latest news is that it has been called off and all services will run to schedule (or near enough!).
EAA was planning on staging a stop-work on Wednesday in order to have all pilots present at an afternoon meeting to discuss pay, conditions and working hours (so I believe).
Latest news is that it has been called off and all services will run to schedule (or near enough!).
Last edited by 2daddies; 20th August 2002 at 15:32.
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From: Living next door to Alan
Fj100, the planned stopwork only affected the Eastern pilot group, as it concerns EBA negotiations that have been dragging on for well over a year.
As you probably know, Sunstate and Southern work under seperate EBA's, although the latter pilot group probably will work under the Eastern EBA some time in the future, once integration is complete.
As you probably know, Sunstate and Southern work under seperate EBA's, although the latter pilot group probably will work under the Eastern EBA some time in the future, once integration is complete.
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From: mars (Celebrating 20 years on PPRUNE)
old contacts?
can anyone give me an idea whats happened to all the southern guys ? what would have happened to someone Launy based 146 command for last 3 years? also what woulda happened to anyone Mildura based command approx 3 years ago? I have two old friends and no contact and would be interested to know what their recent fate has been . Anyone within southern with info and I can provide email for contact. Tanks in advance.
Wawoftam, Please Explain?!
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From: Australia
We had the spanking new 738 doing a couple of runs on SYD-CBR today - the route which was most hit.
I think the 146 came from Southern, as I noticed that some CBR-BNE runs were cancelled, in favour of a 737 service.
I think the 146 came from Southern, as I noticed that some CBR-BNE runs were cancelled, in favour of a 737 service.
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From: Sydney Australia
"Cog wheel, I guess they gained sympathy from the rest of the industry as to their terrible "PLIGHT". Life is tough at the top of the tree".
Yeh lovely statement Doug,you must be management.Happy with your 50% bonus while the rest of the workers struggle to get CPI after a wage freeze at the time Qantas are making record profits.
Its a shame we don't support all pilots trying to improve there lot in life.
You might not be at the top of the tree yet but when you get there hopefully it will be worthwhile thanks to the Eastern pilots willing to make a stand.
Yeh lovely statement Doug,you must be management.Happy with your 50% bonus while the rest of the workers struggle to get CPI after a wage freeze at the time Qantas are making record profits.
Its a shame we don't support all pilots trying to improve there lot in life.
You might not be at the top of the tree yet but when you get there hopefully it will be worthwhile thanks to the Eastern pilots willing to make a stand.
Thread Starter
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From: The dark corner of the bar
You are dreaming coconut. EAA is certainly not the sum total of Australian aviation. There are other companies in Aus you know. I just cant see how things can get so bad that stop work meetings are needed. Why is QF so antagonistic towards you?
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From: The Pilot Grinder
Statement heard in Sydney today that "Southern pilot's are waisting their time applying" for mainline as senior operation staff in Qlonghaul said "they were not going to take regional pilots even if they think they have deals or concessions" because their jobs are gone or, are facing retraining back onto a turboprop
with the 40% pay cut that attracts.
What a lovely company to work for.
And you ask what the problem is? The above is a prime example of what is going on.
Trust is something you have to show in faith, both of these words donot exist with the current management of Q.
with the 40% pay cut that attracts.
What a lovely company to work for.
And you ask what the problem is? The above is a prime example of what is going on.
Trust is something you have to show in faith, both of these words donot exist with the current management of Q.
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From: Brisbane
In relation to CANINE'S post, when Impulse made it known that pilots would be made redundant due to the cessation of 1900 services, they were offered "preference" to QF Mainline interviews, much like Southern I assume.
Out of the 20 or so who went through the process, 1 guy was hired (but he had a 717 slot, which he turned down for a Cathay 400 slot, which he turned down again for Qantas - and on two day's notice), 1 guy has been asked to come back in 6 months, and every other pilot has been rather unceremoniously told to "never re-apply". Even those whose attempt at the process this time was their first one.
Also, out of the 20, only 4 got past the psych and skills test.
Now I'm prepared to admit that in my case, I may have just made a meal of it (I doubt it, mind you), but I can't see how 19 guys who already worked for a Qantas subsidiary could be so bad that they couldn't even try once more a year or two down the track.
Smells like politics to me.
I genuinely hope some of the Southern guys are able to get mainline slots, but I wouldn't put money on it.
Out of the 20 or so who went through the process, 1 guy was hired (but he had a 717 slot, which he turned down for a Cathay 400 slot, which he turned down again for Qantas - and on two day's notice), 1 guy has been asked to come back in 6 months, and every other pilot has been rather unceremoniously told to "never re-apply". Even those whose attempt at the process this time was their first one.
Also, out of the 20, only 4 got past the psych and skills test.
Now I'm prepared to admit that in my case, I may have just made a meal of it (I doubt it, mind you), but I can't see how 19 guys who already worked for a Qantas subsidiary could be so bad that they couldn't even try once more a year or two down the track.
Smells like politics to me.
I genuinely hope some of the Southern guys are able to get mainline slots, but I wouldn't put money on it.
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From: The Pilot Grinder
No one I know of at Southern has been sucessful out of 27 pilots that have sent in applications since April this year when they were told that Southern was being closed. Some guys have been told not to bother coming up for stage two as the results of tests 5 years ago indicate they are not suitable, others have been all the way through to medical and been told to nick off.
Only two guys that had long term active applications have been sucessful.
Says it all really, we must be the absolute scum of aviation damned if I know how there hasn't been serious accidents in the regionals with all those phsycological misfits flying the good ol' Q colours around.
Gotta Love the way they do things!!!!!
Only two guys that had long term active applications have been sucessful.
Says it all really, we must be the absolute scum of aviation damned if I know how there hasn't been serious accidents in the regionals with all those phsycological misfits flying the good ol' Q colours around.
Gotta Love the way they do things!!!!!