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Old 3rd Apr 2021, 11:29
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So many armchair warriors talking about how it should have been this or that - it was a great flypast of all our service types (minus the hawk for a specific reason) and some fantastic warbirds along the Canberra foreshore so people could gather along the the lake and watch.

As for the parade, I doubt many here have had to plan an event during COVID... The fact that people were able to gather is a relief let alone planning a parade that could be cancelled at any moment.

The event was marked on the RAAF birthday date, at the house of the Queen's representative in Australia for the presentation of her new colour during a global pandemic, with 150 odd members on parade. I think all things considered it was a successful day.
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Old 3rd Apr 2021, 12:58
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The Australian was supposed to have a 64 page RAAF 100 supplement on wednesday.
Not in FNQ there wasnt
Anyone get one... was it worth the pick up?
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Old 3rd Apr 2021, 15:05
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Best bit:

32:58 Guests are reminded that a flypast will occur for the minister’s arrival.

33:37. Minister arrives. Galah flies squawking overhead.

That timing was PERFECT.

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Old 4th Apr 2021, 02:20
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Why was it necessary or required to tell people when to salute or remove headwear? Did the organisers believe that those present were bogans or ockers? Embarrassing!
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Old 4th Apr 2021, 02:22
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Lower flypasts would have fixed that! Like in the good ole days.
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Old 4th Apr 2021, 05:59
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Lower flypasts would have fixed that! Like in the good ole days.
That's one thing I would agree on, the "flypasts" looked like high-altitude reconnaissance flights!
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Old 4th Apr 2021, 06:11
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When the RAAF celebrated Battle of Britain day in the 70’s, Canberra’s would be sent out to do flyover of war memorials and enroute aerodromes. As a five year old, I was standing with a group of people beside a country aerodrome runway when a silver Canberra arrived at low level and high speed and proceeded to give the place a beat up.
On the third pass the aircraft disappeared behind the clubhouse and the bellman hangar, before reappearing at low level down the taxiway!

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Old 4th Apr 2021, 07:39
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The RAAF used to crash a lot of aeroplanes back then too.
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Old 4th Apr 2021, 09:00
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Originally Posted by aroa View Post
The Australian was supposed to have a 64 page RAAF 100 supplement on wednesday.
Not in FNQ there wasn't
Anyone get one... was it worth the pick up?
We had the supplement here in Brisvegas...Quite nice too!
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Old 5th Apr 2021, 01:24
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Originally Posted by Ken Borough View Post
Why was it necessary or required to tell people when to salute or remove headwear? Did the organisers believe that those present were bogans or ockers? Embarrassing!
Not a bogan or an ocker but I do appreciate guidance on what is expected at formal occasions. Whenever they announce the National Anthem at sporting events I always wonder if it would hurt to add "Gentlemen please remove your hats". There's a whole generation that don't know this is the correct thing to do (unless in uniform).
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Old 5th Apr 2021, 02:11
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Originally Posted by Fris B. Fairing View Post
Not a bogan or an ocker but I do appreciate guidance on what is expected at formal occasions. Whenever they announce the National Anthem at sporting events I always wonder if it would hurt to add "Gentlemen please remove your hats". There's a whole generation that don't know this is the correct thing to do (unless in uniform).
Well here's a quote from that generation from another thread.

Could you gather all your things and go live in a totalitarian / authoritarian shithole? China or North Korea's available. You'd fit right in at the Uygher "re education" camps where the Government decides what medical procedures you will have
This generation won't be told what to do, just like the generations before it.

PS Surely it should be "ladies and gentlemen, please remove headwear"?
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Old 5th Apr 2021, 02:27
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I heard there was going to be a flypast of 60 aircraft on the day and got excited. Instead it was four aircraft every 5 or 10 minutes, with a confusing parade, on lawn, with a talkover by some gobby, unbriefed bimbo. All at altitudes at which those on the ground normally don't even bother looking up. Very dissatisfying.

You'd think they could at least have wound it up with all the jets and turboprops of any type, maybe even the Roulettes, all in one formation. That'd be around 30 or more and would've been something to remember. It looks like we got the social-distancing, politically-correct, inoffensive and completely forgettable version.
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Old 5th Apr 2021, 02:40
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer View Post
PS Surely it should be "ladies and gentlemen, please remove headwear"?
Well ladies don't remove their hats in church. I'm not sure that would extend to baseball caps though!
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Old 5th Apr 2021, 03:30
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Originally Posted by Eclan
You'd think they could at least have wound it up with all the jets and turboprops of any type, maybe even the Roulettes, all in one formation.
Like this? Canberra, 1977.



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Old 5th Apr 2021, 23:01
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Originally Posted by rivercat View Post
So many armchair warriors talking about how it should have been this or that - it was a great flypast of all our service types (minus the hawk for a specific reason) and some fantastic warbirds along the Canberra foreshore so people could gather along the the lake and watch.

As for the parade, I doubt many here have had to plan an event during COVID... The fact that people were able to gather is a relief let alone planning a parade that could be cancelled at any moment.

The event was marked on the RAAF birthday date, at the house of the Queen's representative in Australia for the presentation of her new colour during a global pandemic, with 150 odd members on parade. I think all things considered it was a successful day.
Do you mean those that have a) never flown b) never flown in a major flypast or c) not been on a major ceremonial parade as armchair warriors?

If you have been there done that I think you have some justification in making comments, whether positive or not so.
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Old 6th Apr 2021, 08:39
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Do you mean those that have a) never flown b) never flown in a major flypast or c) not been on a major ceremonial parade as armchair warriors?

If you have been there done that I think you have some justification in making comments, whether positive or not so.
Fair enough, point taken. I was referencing people not involved in the planning of this particular event.

The criticism seems directed at the lack of a large scale parade and more complex flypast. My frustration at those comments is aimed at the lack of consideration of covid being a huge factor in determining the scale of the event.

I also agree with the previous comment that yes, the RAAF used to fly fast and loose displays but we lost a lot of good aircrew along the way. Maybe that's a good thing it's in the past.

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Old 6th Apr 2021, 14:35
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So I take it that there will be further celebrations and displays around the country? Or is one over Canberra it? I guess they've forgotten what the 1st A stands for.
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Old 7th Apr 2021, 00:33
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Originally Posted by rivercat View Post

The criticism seems directed at the lack of a large scale parade and more complex flypast. My frustration at those comments is aimed at the lack of consideration of covid being a huge factor in determining the scale of the event.

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I take your point but like most things COVID related, with numbers, does seem to be nonsensical when we see the numbers at sporting events etc. In respect to the flypast another some what non event. Appreciate that the Parliamentarian food and beverage incidentals have to be maintained and therefore there is little funds for an aircraft fly-past. But than either make it a) a display (with more than the Roulettes) or b) a decent fly-past. I doubt we will ever see the size of the bi-centennial fly-past again (prob a good thing as our neighbors might get upset with the Pilatus porter being nuclear powered) and understand again if itís not about the pollies the funds will not be available. However surely a decent parade on a parade ground is not reaching too far.

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Old 7th Apr 2021, 01:38
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However surely a decent parade on a parade ground is not reaching too far.
But how much time will be wasted in the practice for such a parade?

You've seen the massive parades in China and North Korea, where they have a section of the army, 100,000 people whose job it is to march in such parades. We don't have those numbers. And what a huge waste of time, money and people, so that their leaders can pat themselves on the back.

Our parade was OK, the flypast was modest, but the Jockettes can't be called that any more due to the number of women flying now. And please use something a bit more impressive than the Pilatus machines. Get some jets in there and make noise that rattles your intestines. The Deltas in Mirages used to do a good job, but their turning circle hindered the display a bit.
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Old 7th Apr 2021, 23:47
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But how much time will be wasted in the practice for such a parade?

You've seen the massive parades in China and North Korea, where they have a section of the army, 100,000 people whose job it is to march in such parades. We don't have those numbers. And what a huge waste of time, money and people, so that their leaders can pat themselves on the back.

Our parade was OK, the flypast was modest, but the Jockettes can't be called that any more due to the number of women flying now. And please use something a bit more impressive than the Pilatus machines. Get some jets in there and make noise that rattles your intestines. The Deltas in Mirages used to do a good job, but their turning circle hindered the display a bit.
Yes you are correct but contradictory.



We are not China where undoubtedly the second time you are out of step you lose your one bowl of rice for the week and the third time you are target practice. Yes it does take time and money to practice for anything. But if you are going to go down that path let’s do away with all parades or contract them out as we have done for so much, fly-past included.



Your contradictory comment on time and money for parades, but then towel the Roulettes for being a bee swarm in noise and want jets, time and money?



I guess saying if you are going to do it, do it right or not at all is probably highlighting the way we are heading. Once again we cannot cut back on pollies salaries, incidental’s super, and red wine (or helo rides) or only having events were they are center stage (imagine a numpty in the fly past or leading a parade)
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