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Old 12th Mar 2021, 06:31
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Trivia Question (I want to know the answer).

131, 191, 245, 271, and 96.

Does anyone know what AND why?
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131, 191, 245, 271, and 96.

Does anyone know what AND why?
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For those not aware they are the numbers/names of the QANTAS hangars at Jetbase SYD.
They are derived from the old Mascot street numbers that pertain to the location of where they were built.
With this bit of knowledge you could possibly score a bottle of wine at a trivia night

What I would really like to know is who is Lake Gaunt named after?
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What I would really like to know is who is Lake Gaunt named after?
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Tom Gaunt, Qantas Base Servicing Superintendent back in the late 50s and 60s.
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Originally Posted by MickG0105
Tom Gaunt, Qantas Base Servicing Superintendent back in the late 50s and 60s.
Great work Mick, thanks for that information.
There are not many around the airport that know that "The Pond" actually has a proper name.
Tom Gaunt must have been a bit of an icon around Base then, I assume?
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OK, what was Hudson Fysh known as, in his office?
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They must've had a strange numbering system as hangar 20 was right next to hangar 85 was out not?
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Thank you for your correspondence.

The numbering system is based on the Department of Civil Aviation's Australia wide building numbering system.
eg. hangar 271 was the 271st building they erected.

Each new building incrementally adds one where ever it is in the country.


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Tom Gaunt must have been a bit of an icon around Base then, I assume?
Based on second- and third-hand stories I've heard, yes, he was. Started out as a fitter with the RAAF in the Second World War, served with No 459 Squadron in the desert and Mediterranean, joined Qantas after the war, played a key role in Qantas's entry into the jet era as Aircraft Servicing Manager. Was living up near Taree when I was at Williamtown in '86 - '87, subsequently moved to Canberra I think.
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Originally Posted by ORAC
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Thank you for your correspondence.

The numbering system is based on the Department of Civil Aviation's Australia wide building numbering system.
eg. hangar 271 was the 271st building they erected.

Each new building incrementally adds one where ever it is in the country.


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Thanks ORAC
That's also a very plausible explanation and more than likely correct if it's come from QANTAS HQ.
Although having spent a lifetime on the airfield itself and heard plenty of stories (some true and plenty of furphies), I've also spent time in BS Castle, and they are always right
I still believe that the numbers would have originated from the original street locations, with the DCA using that as a point of reference for their system... makes sense does it not?
Plus, we all know that bureaucrats love creating "new" systems and processes out of perfectly good "old" ones. Change for the sake of change, no expense spared!!

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Originally Posted by ORAC
https://www.australianfrequentflyer....e-sydney.7602/

Thank you for your correspondence.

The numbering system is based on the Department of Civil Aviation's Australia wide building numbering system.
eg. hangar 271 was the 271st building they erected.

Each new building incrementally adds one where ever it is in the country.


Regards

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It can't be an Australia-wide numbering system as there are Hangar 7s at Brisbane, Archerfield and Essendon and there was a Hangar 271 at Bankstown (might even still be there). More likely to be a site based numbering system.
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isn't that the way the Japanese number buildings in streets ?
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isn't that the way the Japanese number buildings in streets ?
Only after they've had three meetings and everyone agrees.
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You are wrong. Hangar 58 was between H85 and H20.What doesn't make sense if it was housing numbers, is the progression East to West of H85, H58,H20, H96.

When I first started at Mascot in 1965 there were still houses in the centre area along with a grave stone manufacturer, a sheet metal shop and tennis courts. The NSW/Fed border was a set of brick gate posts behind H20 and once passed were out of bounds for the NSW Police who in those days couldn't book you until you stopped. Strangely we never stopped in NSW. There were also 2 smaller hangars between H96 and the then International Terminal which is where the current QF Domestic Terminal is. From memory they also had very low numbers. One was used by Pan Am for engineering vehicles and equipment and the other by Qantas for the mobile stairs storage. In the gallery at the back of the QF hangar were stored two ancient bi planes which suddenly disappeared just prior to the buildings demolition

There is a H131 at both Mascot and Bankstown.

I was told the reason lake Gaunt was called that is after Tom Gaunt but in my time he was referred to as Gunna Gaunt. So the lake was called that because they were always Gunna drain it but never did? What is at the bottom of the lake would be interesting if it was ever drained as its where we disappeared any equipment that we didnt like or didnt work as advertised.

My Sydney street directory shows the lake as Lake Gaunt on the airport map.

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Originally Posted by Wunwing
I was told the reason lake Gaunt was called that is after Tom Gaunt but in my time he was referred to as Gunna Gaunt.
I think that his nickname was 'Gunner', something that he picked up in his war days with the RAAF. His full name was Granville Thompson Gaunt but he went by Tom.
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The QANTAS hangar was Hangar 12, the Fitting Shop (Run by Bob McAdam with a general equipment shop occupying the other half of that hangar

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spent a bit of time on the lake retrieving runaway 707 engine blanks in the early 60tys
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Back to the original question.
Now knowing the hangar closest to the now domestic terminal was H12, then if we leave out H96, Hs20,58 and 85 make sense. It seems to me that the original concept of street numbers was right but somewhere about H96s original build (before it fell down), they changed to a new system.

Does anyone know the number of the old nose hangar near H85?

Thanks for the info on Tom Gaunt. He looked after me as a young apprentice and I've not forgotten.

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blueys,

Would that have been around the time the "Lake Gaunt" sign, mounted on a stick, appeared in the middle of the lake after a particular nightshift ??? Asking for a friend......
PS....I believe engine blanks float like canoes...or so I'm told.

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Originally Posted by Capt Quentin McHale
blueys,

Would that have been around the time the "Lake Gaunt" sign, mounted on a stick, appeared in the middle of the lake after a particular nightshift ??? Asking for a friend......
PS....I believe engine blanks float like canoes...or so I'm told.

Rgds McHale.
Just curious, was there a QF Ginger Beers fishing club (not the Fishos at Kyeemagh) back then and did they use their "downtime" to hit the Lake on the back shift.
What was the biggest and best one caught..... be honest

I had a refueler work mate who used to come in before his 0500 shift and throw a line under the bird netting.
He caught a few mullet and some eels that looked like "Nessie".

Loch Gaunt :-)

I don't think he was dumb enough to eat any of them, but it was rumored that he had grown a sixth toe!

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The one next to 85 was nose hangar 1, the next one was nose hangar 2 and Rowley Probert was nose hangar 3. Beyond the Fitting Shop (H12) was the Pan Am shed, Marshall Airways and Adastra and the A.W.A . Building-going towards the terminal .




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