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Old 31st Oct 2020, 05:58
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Advice from a close friend whose son is a top tier IT consultant is NOT to use QR code’s or the government COVID tracing app. Despite what the Government might like you to believe, they are totally insecure for reasons I don’t understand.
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ex ABC News: The QR code has turned COVID-19 check-ins into......

Article link: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-...cerns/12823432

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a brief extract:
Tens of thousands of small and medium Australian businesses that rushed to outsource the management of their COVID check-in obligations could find themselves snared in a looming data privacy calamity.
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Old 31st Oct 2020, 10:24
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Sounds like you guys might benefit from the tracer app we have on this side of the ditch. All businesses can (must) download a (unique to that business or location) tracer app QR code from the Ministry of Health website. You scan that QR code using a Covid App which then records that you were at that location at a particular time. It's basically an electronic diary located on your phone. There is no need for a cellular connection to be able to scan. The scan records are removed 30 days after the scan.

If there's a suspected Covid case at a particular location that locations details are broadcast to all app users via the app. The app can identify if that location is one of those stored on the device. At that point the app alerts the user to a possible Covid contact. The user then contacts the health authorities for further action.

Users can opt into sharing their location details in real time to the health authorities to allow faster tracing but otherwise your locations are not shared unless it has been identified you have had a potential contact with Covid.

It's introduction was a shambles but now it seems to be working pretty well.
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Old 31st Oct 2020, 11:14
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The scan records are removed 30 days after the scan.

but otherwise your locations are not shared unless it has been identified you have had a potential contact with Covid.
27/09; No criticism of you is intended but reading the above makes an admittedly extremely cynical side of me think that anyone who actually believes the assurances given is somewhat naive!

All businesses can (must) download a (unique to that business or location) tracer app QR code
So any business cannot refuse to do so, eh? Or else what?

I'm either rather paranoid or I simply do not trust any Government when it comes to privacy issues. Whatever you think!

Either way, I'm glad I'm not a Kiwi.
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 18:27
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Pinky,

Yep understand your cynicism. The app has been running long enough now for someone to have discovered that it was "calling home" and that hasn't happened. Irrespective of government assurances this is good evidence to show privacy is being maintained. One of the reasons the app was slow to market was the fact that privacy was paramount and the app had to be effective while still maintaining the users privacy. It does that.

What's your problem with the Ministry of Health QR codes? They are a unique identifier of that businesses, sport clubs, or organisations location displayed as a QR code to enable anyone to record an electronic diary entry on their device of where they have been. It basically saves you having to manually record where you have been if contact tracing is required. Once you have the app on your device the system can work without any cellular connectivity.

I don't think much of our current government and think their handling of the pandemic has been barely adequate, our success has been due to a good luck and other factors. However I do trust what they say when they tell us the location details are not shared. Perhaps our government is more trust worthy than yours? Another point regarding privacy of location data is this app is the cornerstone to their contact tracing programme. There is no way they would want to compromise its use with the discovery they had been lying to the public about privacy.

You seem surprised businesses would be compelled to display the QR codes? For such a system to be effective there needs to be some level of compliance. Perhaps that's another difference. On this side of the Tasman we see that there is a need for this sort of thing in order to keep on top of Covid.

P.S. Use of the app is voluntary but everyone is asked to keep some sort of record of their movements.
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