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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Asia
Posts: 1,061
Last year when all this was kicking off we didn’t really expect it to last as long as it has, a few weeks at the most. Not many would have believed that the borders would still be firmly shut well into the new year. Now we are looking 6 months ahead and many people are saying that will be too soon.
Realistically, there will probably be some limited international travel permitted subject to conditions and restrictions. AJ can’t afford to wait indefinitely for a return to normality, and 1 July isn’t too near or too far. It could easily be brought forward or pushed back a bit subject to changing conditions.
Opening up the whole network for bookings is quite reasonable as tickets for the destinations which still can’t be served in the middle of the year can be refunded or rebooked. Leisure travel is more flexible as Fiji can easily replace Bali for example.
Waiting for things to get back to near normal before starting up again will cost the airline significantly as pax will have already purchased tickets on airlines which have maintained services, such as SQ and QR, instead.
Realistically, there will probably be some limited international travel permitted subject to conditions and restrictions. AJ can’t afford to wait indefinitely for a return to normality, and 1 July isn’t too near or too far. It could easily be brought forward or pushed back a bit subject to changing conditions.
Opening up the whole network for bookings is quite reasonable as tickets for the destinations which still can’t be served in the middle of the year can be refunded or rebooked. Leisure travel is more flexible as Fiji can easily replace Bali for example.
Waiting for things to get back to near normal before starting up again will cost the airline significantly as pax will have already purchased tickets on airlines which have maintained services, such as SQ and QR, instead.
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: NDB
Age: 50
Posts: 144
It's not just the aviation and tourism sectors that are being smashed due to the border closures, its the universities due lack of international students and fees, farmers not getting workers, just to name a few.
The pressure to open up once the elderly, the vulnerable and essential workers are vaccinated will be to overwhelming from the Business sector for the Government to ignore and could be politically damaging come election time if it is to coincide with their inability to continue to keep things locked up.
The pressure to open up once the elderly, the vulnerable and essential workers are vaccinated will be to overwhelming from the Business sector for the Government to ignore and could be politically damaging come election time if it is to coincide with their inability to continue to keep things locked up.
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 376
Also keep in mind a 789 seats 236. AJ has pointed out as long as the flight makes one dollar they’ll do it. Now come July when a 789 does SYD-LAX it won’t take too many seats to make that dollar.
I can’t see it being too difficult to achieving that.
I can’t see it being too difficult to achieving that.
Nunc est bibendum
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 5,367
There are enough crew current(ish) on the A330 fleet that for it to ramp up to even 60% ops wouldn’t take much additional training at all. The 787 would be a bit different but they’ll have enough information in April to know whether or not they need to be ramping up towards 10%, 30%, or 50%.
I suspect that most of us would be able to ‘make do’ on 50% and/or 50% is going to be close to more than what we were making full time on other jobs. Either way, depending on how the ramp up looks, I suspect there will be enough lead time and information available for people to decide if they want to be part of the 50% of the flying, or whether they want to hold off for a bit longer and be assured that the flying will be there to replace their other jobs.
I suspect that most of us would be able to ‘make do’ on 50% and/or 50% is going to be close to more than what we were making full time on other jobs. Either way, depending on how the ramp up looks, I suspect there will be enough lead time and information available for people to decide if they want to be part of the 50% of the flying, or whether they want to hold off for a bit longer and be assured that the flying will be there to replace their other jobs.
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Gladstone
Age: 44
Posts: 108
How’s the 787 SYD base looking??
with the rumour 330 taking the BNE-LAX, I sense some considerable time in the lounge paxing up and down the east coast for the BNE base.
Just as it was pre COVID 😆
with the rumour 330 taking the BNE-LAX, I sense some considerable time in the lounge paxing up and down the east coast for the BNE base.
Just as it was pre COVID 😆
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: melbourne
Posts: 394
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: On the chopping board.
Posts: 913
"Last year when all this was kicking off we didn’t really expect it to last as long as it has, a few weeks at the most. Not many would have believed that the borders would still be firmly shut well into the new year. Now we are looking 6 months ahead and many people are saying that will be too soon."
I wasn't expecting to be back at work for the rest of 2020 after my stand-down commenced last year.
And in all honesty, I don't expect things to get back to normal until this flu hype subsides. I doubt the vaccines will open up international boarders whilst there are still traces flaring up in different communities. Health bureaucrats only have a one track mind.
And this whole experience has taught me that politicians will go to any length to stop the spread of any virus, going forward, no matter how dangerous or harmless it may be.
I wasn't expecting to be back at work for the rest of 2020 after my stand-down commenced last year.
And in all honesty, I don't expect things to get back to normal until this flu hype subsides. I doubt the vaccines will open up international boarders whilst there are still traces flaring up in different communities. Health bureaucrats only have a one track mind.
And this whole experience has taught me that politicians will go to any length to stop the spread of any virus, going forward, no matter how dangerous or harmless it may be.
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Mexico City
Posts: 346
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 72
In the meantime, we all know what the guy meant so this whole circus of tears wasn't required. But i hope it made those involved feel important.
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Mexico City
Posts: 346
We fly 73s and 76s but thanks for your insight.